Political Correctness and Darwin

Evolution

Beretta92FSLady said:

Hitler believed in evolution? Seriously, read Mein Kampf; Hitler, is his own words, stated that he is "[...doing the work of the Lord...]" Who the F is the Lord Hitler is referring too?

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Did you ever read the Nazi gospels? There was even a documentary show on the History channel not long ago. It is clear that Hitler was a evolutionists he thought he was just getting rid of human weeds. Didn't you here what he said about Jessie Owens? He said it was not fair for his men to compete against such animals.
Most evolutionists do not even know what they even believe. You have to help them out so they understand what they really believe in. Billions of years ago nothing exploded (big bang:shocker then the left over remnants of nothingness got together to form the earth. Then the earth was a hot ball of molten rock and then the earth cooled and it rained on the rocks for millions of years and through erosion it formed pools and ponds and lakes and it became some kind of chemical soup and some how like magic the soup came alive and presto here we are. That is how a crock evolved from a rock. Don't tell me creation is religious and evolution is not. Evolution is still the dumbest most dangerous religion that has ever been. Anything that has ever been used to prove evolution has been proven wrong. There is still a 250.000$ reward to any one who can prove it. The reward has been out there for over 20 years. If you have proof then I would like to see it.

Diversity

Venator said:

It's the social lounge and most anything can be discussed.

And evolution is a scientific fact. It is the best explanation for the diversity of life on earth. WAY better than, "I don't know, therefore a god did it."

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What kind of "diversity" are you talking about? Do your really believe a crock (crocodile) evolved from a rock?

Personally, I don't see any great contradiction between religion and evolution.

Assuming evolution to be a fact, I see no reason why the Creator couldn't be directing it. Which would make the Creator an active and ongoing creator, which is kinda what I strongly suspect.

Mr Birdman said:

What kind of "diversity" are you talking about? Do your really believe a crock (crocodile) evolved from a rock?

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I've spoken to militant and very religious atheists who were adamant that nothing can come from nothing. One told me , a PhD student in microbiology, that "that is the best theory right now."

The devotion to the evolution myth (that men come from apes, birds from dinosaurs, etc) is not universal. I had a published biochemistry professor who thought it was absolutely the craziest thing ever. To say so in writing would have been professional suicide, even though it was not his area of study. Ben Stein did a documentary on academic ostracism as it relates to evolution deniers, called "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5EPymcWp-g

Evolution

Citizen said:

Personally, I don't see any great contradiction between religion and evolution.

Assuming evolution to be a fact, I see no reason why the Creator couldn't be directing it. Which would make the Creator an active and ongoing creator, which is kinda what I strongly suspect.

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God would not use evolution to create that would mean that he has made hundreds of billions of mistakes and that he can not get it right. He did it in 6 days and said it was very good and he was finished. :monkey

Ben Stein

77zach said:

I've spoken to militant and very religious atheists who were adamant that nothing can come from nothing. One told me , a PhD student in microbiology, that "that is the best theory right now."

The devotion to the evolution myth (that men come from apes, birds from dinosaurs, etc) is not universal. I had a published biochemistry professor who thought it was absolutely the craziest thing ever. To say so in writing would have been professional suicide, even though it was not his area of study. Ben Stein did a documentary on academic ostracism as it relates to evolution deniers, called "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5EPymcWp-g

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Very good movie but Dr Dino also on you tube is better lots of info there.

77zach said:

I've spoken to militant and very religious atheists who were adamant that nothing can come from nothing. One told me , a PhD student in microbiology, that "that is the best theory right now."

The devotion to the evolution myth (that men come from apes, birds from dinosaurs, etc) is not universal. I had a published biochemistry professor who thought it was absolutely the craziest thing ever. To say so in writing would have been professional suicide, even though it was not his area of study. Ben Stein did a documentary on academic ostracism as it relates to evolution deniers, called "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5EPymcWp-g

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There are always a few scientists that don't agree. But I bet for every 1 you find there are probably 100 that back evolution up.

We HAVE their DNA in us. It's only a few changes away. We have the bones that SHOW the evolution and they keep finding more.

Either you believe in Science in general or you don't. If you do, then science overwhelming backs up evolution. If you don't trust science, then you can go for creationism.

Science

Primus said:

There are always a few scientists that don't agree. But I bet for every 1 you find there are probably 100 that back evolution up.

We HAVE their DNA in us. It's only a few changes away. We have the bones that SHOW the evolution and they keep finding more.

Either you believe in Science in general or you don't. If you do, then science overwhelming backs up evolution. If you don't trust science, then you can go for creationism.

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I do believe in science and science does not back up the evolution religion. Bones are you kidding you must be kidding right? If you find a bone in the dirt the only thing you know for certain it that it is dead. you can not ever prove that it had any kids and you certainly can not prove that it had different kids like evolution says. Remember a crock did not come from a rock.

Mr Birdman said:

God would not use evolution to create that would mean that he has made hundreds of billions of mistakes and that he can not get it right. He did it in 6 days and said it was very good and he was finished. :monkey

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I don't know about that; it doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.

Its basically saying that a Being capable of immense creation created once, and then quit.

Artists don't stop after one painting; architects don't stop after one bridge; designers don't stop after one living room.

Lets examine for just a moment a totally different angle. If the Creator is all-powerful, what does that really mean? It means He is possessed of total freedom--literally. No limitations, whether from an outside source or self-installed. What's he got left to do? Not much else besides create.

It makes much more sense to me that such a being would "get up in the morning" and want to create something. Every day. It makes much more sense to me that He might want to tinker and create variations as He went along. For all I know maybe He does it when he gets bored creating an entire system from scratch in one shot. I'm not saying I "believe" that is the way it is. I am saying it makes much more sense to me.

Primus said:

There are always a few scientists that don't agree. But I bet for every 1 you find there are probably 100 that back evolution up.

We HAVE their DNA in us. It's only a few changes away. We have the bones that SHOW the evolution and they keep finding more.

Either you believe in Science in general or you don't. If you do, then science overwhelming backs up evolution. If you don't trust science, then you can go for creationism.

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We're close to cockroaches too, but that's irrelevant. If even one protein isn't encoded correctly a baby can be born dead or severely retarded. We are all genetically nearly identical, yet no two people look the same. Chemically, thermodynamically, a man coming from a monkey is like me saying I can jump from here to the moon. Evolution tries to conceal this absurdity by extending the timeline to infinity to save the theory, but no dice.

People like to believe in progress and "science", watch Star Trek, for example. The idea of evolution is in literature way before Darwin, and so will likely be with us forever. But, I enjoy being contrary, smug in the knowledge that it is absolutely ridiculous.

Mr Birdman said:

I do believe in science and science does not back up the evolution religion. Bones are you kidding you must be kidding right? If you find a bone in the dirt the only thing you know for certain it that it is dead. you can not ever prove that it had any kids and you certainly can not prove that it had different kids like evolution says. Remember a crock did not come from a rock.

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Actually you can tell from dimensions, weight, chemical makeup, and DNA what exact animal it was, what it ate, if it was diseased... all from a dead bone.

A crock didn't come from a rock according to you.

Can you list ways science doesn't back up evolution? I've named DNA, I've named bones (the progression of them how skeleton of animal A has this bone and that bone and Skeleton B is missing just 1 bone, etc. etc.).

77zach said:

We're close to cockroaches too, but that's irrelevant. If even one protein isn't encoded correctly a baby can be born dead or severely retarded. We are all genetically nearly identical, yet no two people look the same. Chemically, thermodynamically, a man coming from a monkey is like me saying I can jump from here to the moon. Evolution tries to conceal this absurdity by extending the timeline to infinity to save the theory, but no dice.

People like to believe in progress and "science", watch Star Trek, for example. The idea of evolution is in literature way before Darwin, and so will likely be with us forever. But, I enjoy being contrary, smug in the knowledge that it is absolutely ridiculous.

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Please cite.

I've cited where we are 98.5 the same as chimpanzees. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/57516.php

And we ARE NOT genetically identical... hence by taking your blood they can tell if your Africam American or Indian or Japanese.....

And you can extend the timeline by simply carbon dating things. Again, it's a scientific method. No voodoo science or something just in a book that someone else tells you is true...

Do you know how proteins are made in the human body? This was through evolution huh? Homey don't think so.

Mr Birdman said:

God would not use evolution to create that would mean that he has made hundreds of billions of mistakes and that he can not get it right. He did it in 6 days and said it was very good and he was finished. :monkey

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[Not saying that interspecial evolution has occurred, just pointing out the illogic of the above post.]

One species goes extinct, and another comes into existence. The species that went extinct was a mistake?

One person dies, and another is born. The person who died was a mistake???

There is no judgment in the extinction of a species. The event just is.


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Humans have 23 pair of chromosomes. Chimpanzees have 24. That means that humans are less than 92% similar to chimps. Of course you could measure by using the fact that both have four nucleobases, meaning we are 100% the same.

Silly comparison that does not demonstrate a family tree of evolution from one species to another.


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I do peel my bananas that result in only three segments instead of four. I've been told that is how chips peel bananas.....hmm.

Quality primates prefer carrots.

No peeling necessary.

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I think you just called me dumb chimp cuz I eat bananas.....I'm not sure though.

Carbon dating

Primus said:

Please cite.

I've cited where we are 98.5 the same as chimpanzees. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/57516.php

And we ARE NOT genetically identical... hence by taking your blood they can tell if your Africam American or Indian or Japanese.....

And you can extend the timeline by simply carbon dating things. Again, it's a scientific method. No voodoo science or something just in a book that someone else tells you is true...

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Carbon dating are you kidding me? In a perfect world it would work but the fact is the the earth has not reached equilibrium thus the problem is never the same. They found a frozen mammoth in the arctic years ago and tested it. One leg was 48,000 years old and the other was over 60,000 years old. How long does it take to give birth any way? Live snails tested at over 40,000 years old. Freshly killed seal 50,000+ years old. If you do a math problem (2+4=6) you will always get 6 but if you change the 4 to a 3 or a 9 or a 2 you will never get 6. That is the problem with carbon dating the amount of carbon 14 is constantly changing because the earth has not reached equilibrium yet there for the math does not work the numbers keep changing. You do not get the correct #'s because you keep using bad info to begin with. Of course there are various differences with in there kid's. There are big dogs little dogs black dogs and yellow dogs but they are still DOGS. No dog has ever laid a egg and had a chicken pop out, which is what evolution demands. Why do you only talk about the 6th definition of evolution? Why don't you talk about the first 5? You only talk about existing living things. Why don't you talk about how life got started in the first place, and how a crock came from a rock? Some even believe that dinosaurs turned into birds. I have a question then. At one point the dino had to start changing shape. and at one point it had to half wings and had to have it's pelvis to turn around 180 degrees. So at some point it's evolutionary life it could not walk or fly. I want to know what took care of it and fed it for million's of years until it could walk or fly and why din't it eat it. I mean if any predator came across something in that bad of shape I think it would be lunch don't you? So why do we have birds? Chicken is great lunch don't you think?

OC for ME said:

I think you just called me dumb chimp cuz I eat bananas.....I'm not sure though.

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I think you're reading something into, though. He's not nearly that sophisticated. I'm not saying he can't be or couldn't be if he wanted. I'm saying he doesn't. He's more a brute verbal force type.