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New York Penal Law § 400.00(5)
5. Filing of approved applications. The application for any license, if granted, shall be filed by the licensing officer with the clerk of the county of issuance, except that in the city of New York and, in the counties of Nassau and Suffolk, the licensing officer shall designate the place of filing in the appropriate division, bureau or unit of the police department thereof, and in the county of Suffolk the county clerk is hereby authorized to transfer all records or applications relating to firearms to the licensing authority of that county. The name and address of any person to whom an application for any license has been granted shall be a public record. Upon application by a licensee who has changed his place of residence such records or applications shall be transferred to the appropriate officer at the licensee's new place of residence. A duplicate copy of such application shall be filed by the licensing officer in the executive department, division of state police, Albany, within ten days after the issuance of the license. Nothing in this subdivision shall be construed to change the expiration date or term of such licenses if otherwise provided by law.
This site provides public access to certain fields from the master pistol permit database maintained by the Pistol Permit Bureau of the New York State Police.
Pistol permit website sparks debate. Welcome The Daily Star readers from Oneonta, NY. Thank you Denise Richardson! (Subscribe to the Daily Star)
Full downloads:
new.csv: New system database (13M, 312462 entries)
old.csv: Old system database (14M, 898574 entries)
master.zip: Both of the above zipped (8M)
Mirrors
master.zip from Cryptome (Donate to Cryptome)
All files (see HTTP link) from The Internet Archive (Donate to the Internet Archive)
110mb.com
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Search is disabled for now. You can open the whole database above in any spreadsheet or text editor and search them more effectively that way.
What is this?
These records consist of certain fields from the pistol permit master database as of April 5, 2010. Despite the term "master database," the pistol permit bureau actually maintains two databases, labeled "old system" and "new system." It appears that all new pistol permits have gone into the "new system" database. Importantly, it seems that the "old system" lacks locational identifying data on permit-holders, and individuals remain in the "old system" despite permit renewals/amendments. All that is provided for the old database is a list of names. There are almost 900,000 names in the old database versus just over 300,000 entries in the new database.
To understand the master database, a little background on pistol licensing in the state of New York is necessary. With a few exceptions (broadly, for peace officers, military, and temporary presence for transit or certain special events), possession of a pistol is illegal in New York without a pistol permit, which must be carried with the pistol. Pistol permits are issued locally by the designated licensing officers of the counties/cities. Licensing will involve a background check by local and state police, but the application is made to local authorities, the permit is issued by local authorities at their discretion, and the record of the permit is kept by local authorities. However, when a permit is granted or amended, the local authorities must promptly transmit this information to the state police to be recorded in the master database.
Although the definitive records of pistol permits are kept by dozens of local agencies that are only easily available locally, the master database is available to law enforcement across the state. In theory, the master database should be kept consistent with all these local records. In fact, the database is riddled with errors, omissions, and some outright garbage, and in some cases may not match local records.
Why is my address on this site?
Pistol permits are public records under New York law. Under current law, New Yorkers have a right to know who in their state is licensed to legally possess a pistol, or conversely, who is not licensed. See the statute quoted at the top of this page.
The state police have maintained these public records since 1936. If you do not think this information should be public, you should contact your state legislators in the assembly or senate. If you disagree with New York's pistol licensing scheme, you should contact your state legislator. If you believe these records are being mismanaged, you should contact your state legislator or the appropriate officials in state executive. If you find a specific error that you believe should be corrected, contact the state police or your local law enforcement officers.
What gives you the right to put this on the Internet?
The statute quoted above and the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Pistol permit records have always been public records in New York, but the above statute was amended in 1993 to clarify that names and addresses are specifically open to the public.
Even if it is a public record, isn't publishing it an evil thing to do? People could get hurt!
That is your opinion, no more. People can already get hurt. State and local authorities have always provided this information on request—and have, many times. Private agencies will happily take your money—no questions asked—to perform "public records searches" or "investigations" for this information, which is available for free.
Moreover, while hypothetical examples of real harm from access to public records can always be conjured, there are as many or more countervailing examples. From the above Daily Star article:
[Brady spokesman] Hamm said when a state deems the information public, the right exists to publish the information. A citizen has a right to know if his child has a playdate in the home of a pistol owner, among other situations, he said.
The oft-conjured domestic violence victim in hiding is more likely to fear her estranged abuser's arsenal than disclosure of her own. Tactical shotguns for home protection can be purchased in minutes without any registration. And if you of the opinion that all permit-holders are safe, law-abiding citizens and it's nobody's business who they are, consider this:
WONG,JIVERLY,A,,,NY,
We all know people who should never be trusted with a handgun. Wouldn't it be nice to know if they have one?
On the other hand, gun activists may appreciate being able to dig up which gun control advocates have permits themselves, or which VIPs have been favored with quick permits in tough jurisdictions like NYC. Pistol owners may value the reminder that their information is in fact available to all, the opportunity to check the accuracy or content of their own public record, or to find new shooting buddies.
DISCLAIMER
The pistol permit database records are provided as disclosed by the State of New York. No representations are made as to the quality or accuracy of this information. Pistol permits are issued, revoked, and amended on a daily basis; the records on this website were extracted on or about April 5, 2010. Nothing on this page is to be construed as legal advice. Criminal possession of a firearm is a very serious matter and you should consult with an attorney if you have any questions about the legality of any action.
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"I know there is a post made, but this is somewhat loooong. Some people had issues viewing it so I figured I would paste it for those who can't. -Metal"
New York Penal Law § 400.00(5)
5. Filing of approved applications. The application for any license, if granted, shall be filed by the licensing officer with the clerk of the county of issuance, except that in the city of New York and, in the counties of Nassau and Suffolk, the licensing officer shall designate the place of filing in the appropriate division, bureau or unit of the police department thereof, and in the county of Suffolk the county clerk is hereby authorized to transfer all records or applications relating to firearms to the licensing authority of that county. The name and address of any person to whom an application for any license has been granted shall be a public record. Upon application by a licensee who has changed his place of residence such records or applications shall be transferred to the appropriate officer at the licensee's new place of residence. A duplicate copy of such application shall be filed by the licensing officer in the executive department, division of state police, Albany, within ten days after the issuance of the license. Nothing in this subdivision shall be construed to change the expiration date or term of such licenses if otherwise provided by law.
This site provides public access to certain fields from the master pistol permit database maintained by the Pistol Permit Bureau of the New York State Police.
Pistol permit website sparks debate. Welcome The Daily Star readers from Oneonta, NY. Thank you Denise Richardson! (Subscribe to the Daily Star)
Full downloads:
new.csv: New system database (13M, 312462 entries)
old.csv: Old system database (14M, 898574 entries)
master.zip: Both of the above zipped (8M)
Mirrors
master.zip from Cryptome (Donate to Cryptome)
All files (see HTTP link) from The Internet Archive (Donate to the Internet Archive)
110mb.com
Search is disabled for now. You can open the whole database above in any spreadsheet or text editor and search them more effectively that way.
What is this?
These records consist of certain fields from the pistol permit master database as of April 5, 2010. Despite the term "master database," the pistol permit bureau actually maintains two databases, labeled "old system" and "new system." It appears that all new pistol permits have gone into the "new system" database. Importantly, it seems that the "old system" lacks locational identifying data on permit-holders, and individuals remain in the "old system" despite permit renewals/amendments. All that is provided for the old database is a list of names. There are almost 900,000 names in the old database versus just over 300,000 entries in the new database.
To understand the master database, a little background on pistol licensing in the state of New York is necessary. With a few exceptions (broadly, for peace officers, military, and temporary presence for transit or certain special events), possession of a pistol is illegal in New York without a pistol permit, which must be carried with the pistol. Pistol permits are issued locally by the designated licensing officers of the counties/cities. Licensing will involve a background check by local and state police, but the application is made to local authorities, the permit is issued by local authorities at their discretion, and the record of the permit is kept by local authorities. However, when a permit is granted or amended, the local authorities must promptly transmit this information to the state police to be recorded in the master database.
Although the definitive records of pistol permits are kept by dozens of local agencies that are only easily available locally, the master database is available to law enforcement across the state. In theory, the master database should be kept consistent with all these local records. In fact, the database is riddled with errors, omissions, and some outright garbage, and in some cases may not match local records.
Why is my address on this site?
Pistol permits are public records under New York law. Under current law, New Yorkers have a right to know who in their state is licensed to legally possess a pistol, or conversely, who is not licensed. See the statute quoted at the top of this page.
The state police have maintained these public records since 1936. If you do not think this information should be public, you should contact your state legislators in the assembly or senate. If you disagree with New York's pistol licensing scheme, you should contact your state legislator. If you believe these records are being mismanaged, you should contact your state legislator or the appropriate officials in state executive. If you find a specific error that you believe should be corrected, contact the state police or your local law enforcement officers.
What gives you the right to put this on the Internet?
The statute quoted above and the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Pistol permit records have always been public records in New York, but the above statute was amended in 1993 to clarify that names and addresses are specifically open to the public.
Even if it is a public record, isn't publishing it an evil thing to do? People could get hurt!
That is your opinion, no more. People can already get hurt. State and local authorities have always provided this information on request—and have, many times. Private agencies will happily take your money—no questions asked—to perform "public records searches" or "investigations" for this information, which is available for free.
Moreover, while hypothetical examples of real harm from access to public records can always be conjured, there are as many or more countervailing examples. From the above Daily Star article:
[Brady spokesman] Hamm said when a state deems the information public, the right exists to publish the information. A citizen has a right to know if his child has a playdate in the home of a pistol owner, among other situations, he said.
The oft-conjured domestic violence victim in hiding is more likely to fear her estranged abuser's arsenal than disclosure of her own. Tactical shotguns for home protection can be purchased in minutes without any registration. And if you of the opinion that all permit-holders are safe, law-abiding citizens and it's nobody's business who they are, consider this:
WONG,JIVERLY,A,,,NY,
We all know people who should never be trusted with a handgun. Wouldn't it be nice to know if they have one?
On the other hand, gun activists may appreciate being able to dig up which gun control advocates have permits themselves, or which VIPs have been favored with quick permits in tough jurisdictions like NYC. Pistol owners may value the reminder that their information is in fact available to all, the opportunity to check the accuracy or content of their own public record, or to find new shooting buddies.
DISCLAIMER
The pistol permit database records are provided as disclosed by the State of New York. No representations are made as to the quality or accuracy of this information. Pistol permits are issued, revoked, and amended on a daily basis; the records on this website were extracted on or about April 5, 2010. Nothing on this page is to be construed as legal advice. Criminal possession of a firearm is a very serious matter and you should consult with an attorney if you have any questions about the legality of any action.
Feedback
You can email feedback to a2978453@owlpic.com if you wish. Do not expect a response.
This website, with the exception of the graphic, is in the public domain. Copy freely.
Like this site?
Donate to UNICEF. Because the world has bigger problems than yours.