Mike
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Thanks for any input or links - would like to know where this is going.
Thanks for any input or links - would like to know where this is going.
My birth place is somewhat of an embarrassment - they appear to be asleep at the wheel.I find it interesting that someone from Utah is paying more attention to what is going on in the Nebraska legislature than anyone on the forum in Nebraska.
Sort of. Too many exceptions and too many (illegal) local ordinances. It will be better after/if LB430 passes.After all, Nebraska already HAS open carry ;-)
I really like the way you think.I was kind of wondering about Constitutional rights and illegal laws. I am now questioning whether you can even charge for issuing a Concealed pistol Permit since it has been found unconstitutional by the SCOTUS. Per this example.
Marbury v. Madison (1803) decided that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and that any law that contradicts the Constitution is null and void. "The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and the name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void and ineffective for any purpose since unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it; an unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed ... An unconstitutional law is void." (16 American Jurisprudence 2d, Sec. 178)
In Murdock v. Pennsylvania (1943) the Supreme Court stated that a constitutionally-protected right may not be licensed, nor a fee charged. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is one of those protected natural rights.
In Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, Alabama (1962) the Supreme Court decided that “If the state does convert a liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.”
So where does that put permits and fees? It's a right to keep and bear arms, not a priveledge and it should not be licensed or charged. Has any gun law kept anyone from getting killed by a criminal? No. All the law did was create teeth by which to negotiate a plea bargins and sentence. There already is a law for criminals using firearms. Thou shalt not kill.
FYI Everyone:
LB 430 passed final reading today voted 45-3. So looks like Nebraska will get a little better now. People still seem unsure whether the registration requirement in omaha will go away for permit holders or not. Personally I do not go to omaha for any reason so I don't really care but I might consider visiting more if I didn't have to worry about getting my gun taken away because I didn't put it on somebody's "list"
Anyway. Bill should take effect Sept 4 if governor signs like he should.
Bill does:
-State Pre-emption of all local ordinances regarding CHP holders
-Church carry for approved security personel
-No more 180 day wait period for military personel stationed in NE
-Allow carry at any of the prohibited or posted places so long as gun does not leave vehicle (including schools!)
-Dictates CHP issuance in 45 days or less (after 1 Jan 2010)
-Enables Reciprocity with states TBD by NE Attorney General
Some of the dates are out there a bit - but anything will be an improvement.JesseT wrote:FYI Everyone:
LB 430 passed final reading today voted 45-3. So looks like Nebraska will get a little better now. People still seem unsure whether the registration requirement in omaha will go away for permit holders or not. Personally I do not go to omaha for any reason so I don't really care but I might consider visiting more if I didn't have to worry about getting my gun taken away because I didn't put it on somebody's "list"
Anyway. Bill should take effect Sept 4 if governor signs like he should.
Bill does:
-State Pre-emption of all local ordinances regarding CHP holders
-Church carry for approved security personel
-No more 180 day wait period for military personel stationed in NE
-Allow carry at any of the prohibited or posted places so long as gun does not leave vehicle (including schools!)
-Dictates CHP issuance in 45 days or less (after 1 Jan 2010)
-Enables Reciprocity with states TBD by NE Attorney General
Cool! Maybe my home state of NE will recognize my NV permit! :celebrate
THEN, when I fly home, I could pack my gun, so I can "pack" my gun.
69-2432 (1)
(b) Knowledge and safe handling of handgun ammunition;
(e) Knowledge of federal, state, and local laws pertaining to the purchase, ownership, transportation, and possession of handguns;
(g) Knowledge of ways to avoid a criminal attack and to defuse or control a violent confrontation; and
(h) Knowledge of proper storage practices for handguns and ammunition, including storage practices which would reduce the possibility of accidental injury to a child.