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What carry gun do you carry?

WalkingWolf

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While I am not particularly a Glock fan (I prefer CZ), a Glock can be the basis for becoming a prince (or at least a Duke), if one wishes to bestow the effort and resources, however, a Hi-Point will always be a frog. The value one assigns to cost, warranty and replacement is subjective.

Not for people on a budget. But if a person wants a shiny beauty, a Glock just is not it. CZ's though in the right STOCK configuration a work of art.

My wife's EDC since last month is a Witness Pavona, nothing fancy but much better than the Glock of hers she disliked so much. The Glock got sold, and the Pavona got ordered. BIG/HUGE difference of the grip, shorter trigger reach carrying condition 1 for her petite hands. Honestly there is no comparison between a Glock, and a CZ, it would be like comparing passion fruit to an onion.
 

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Not for people on a budget.

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Even when I was making $5.35 way back when I budgeted for a new Browning SXS that was well over the price of Glock.

Budgeting is just a matter of ones priorities.

But some people have different priorities, there is nothing wrong with spending more money, and there is nothing wrong with spending less. I have spent up to a 900 dollars on a S&W PC model 625, I am not better than someone who spends much less. Hi Points do work, and there are a few members on here who own them. I have no problem with people who don't like HP's.
 
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redhawk44

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But some people have different priorities, there is nothing wrong with spending more money, and there is nothing wrong with spending less. I have spent up to a 900 dollars on a S&W PC model 625, I am not better than someone who spends much less. Hi Points do work, and there are a few members on here who own them. I have no problem with people who don't like HP's. Same for any gun, but I have a problem when someone makes a remark that my wife has water on her brain for owning one. People who do that are just jerks, no matter what kind of gun they own.

WW

Ya know, it seems most people who dislike Hi-Points, do so because they are large and UGLY, not because they are cheap. For those people who own them and may keep them as a house or vehicle weapon, they may serve the purpose well. Often, trouble arises from novices who are unfamiliar in maintaining and shooting semi-autos. Myself, I own no revolvers or semi's that are designated as a house gun only, and I just would not, if I have a choice, carry a Hi-Point, as to me, they are just so damn ugly.

Gun snobs and jerks?! Well, my three hundred and some plus dollar LC9S Pro gets the nod locally, while my CZ P-01, though not a thousand dollar plus weapon, is carried when I leave my local rural area. I have no problem betting my wife's or my life on either one of the two.
 

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WW

Ya know, it seems most people who dislike Hi-Points, do so because they are large and UGLY, not because they are cheap. For those people who own them and may keep them as a house or vehicle weapon, they may serve the purpose well. Often, trouble arises from novices who are unfamiliar in maintaining and shooting semi-autos. Myself, I own no revolvers or semi's that are designated as a house gun only, and I just would not, if I have a choice, carry a Hi-Point, as to me, they are just so damn ugly.

Gun snobs and jerks?! Well, my three hundred and some plus dollar LC9S Pro gets the nod locally, while my CZ P-01, though not a thousand dollar plus weapon, is carried when I leave my local rural area. I have no problem betting my wife's or my life on either one of the two.

My wife likes the HP because of low recoil, it has worked without a failure for over 500 rounds. When she travels the HP is the gun she takes, if it is stolen she is not out much. Where her Pavona is a $350 gun, still not expensive, but more than double the Hi Point.

I carried a Glock for a while, so I bought her one. No matter how many times she shot it her hand was bruised, and her wrist sore. The grip for small hands is just not very good, OTH the HP grip fits her well. Her trigger reach on the Glock was also a problem, on the Pavona she carries condition one. The reach is about perfect for her. She had been carrying my Colt Police Positive 32-20, but the loads for that are about the same energy as a 380 with only six rounds, and a stiff trigger pull, 17 pounds.
 

9026543

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Hi Point C9 for me. Yea it is ugly but just like a ugly woman it is dependable and if you treat them good they will always be a good faithful companion.
 

stealthyeliminator

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A CZ P07 Duty, one of the first generation. Wish I had a second gen. Think my wife would notice the differences if I just started carrying a second gen one day? :lol:

I carry in a custom leather holster with a thumb strap, on a matching leather belt.
 

Midwest

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WW

Ya know, it seems most people who dislike Hi-Points, do so because they are large and UGLY, not because they are cheap. For those people who own them and may keep them as a house or vehicle weapon, they may serve the purpose well. Often, trouble arises from novices who are unfamiliar in maintaining and shooting semi-autos. Myself, I own no revolvers or semi's that are designated as a house gun only, and I just would not, if I have a choice, carry a Hi-Point, as to me, they are just so damn ugly.

Hi-Points are large and ugly but they are reliable. I have the Hi-Point 45 acp and it never jammed up on me and it shoots fairly accurate. The only regret is that I didn't pick up a used 9 mm for $90 when I had my chance.
 
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Not everyone has the luxury of a good job/fat bank account so a relatively cheap HI POINT pistol makes perfect sense to a single mother who needs to buy winter coats for her 3 kids and who needs a gun to protect those 3 kids from a violent stalker ex husband/boyfriend.

In a life and death situation a cheap gun that goes "bang" is better than loud shouting and waiting for a 911 response.

Oh... and to be on topic...

I carry whichever, and how many, of my carry guns I wish to carry.
 
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deepdiver

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It has always seemed ludicrous and snobby to me for "gun people" who support expanding and encouraging exercise of our 2A rights to be snobby about any decent functional sidearm regardless of cost and attractiveness. The Hi Points have proved themselves to be inexpensive (and ugly) rather than cheap. Criticizing that choice, especially if it is all one can afford, does not encourage active 2A participation and engagement.

Oh, and I carry a semi-automatic except when I carry a revolver.
 

WalkingWolf

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It has always seemed ludicrous and snobby to me for "gun people" who support expanding and encouraging exercise of our 2A rights to be snobby about any decent functional sidearm regardless of cost and attractiveness. The Hi Points have proved themselves to be inexpensive (and ugly) rather than cheap. Criticizing that choice, especially if it is all one can afford, does not encourage active 2A participation and engagement.

Oh, and I carry a semi-automatic except when I carry a revolver.

I usually carry a semi auto in the summer, but a revolver in colder weather. Currently I am carrying a Star Super A, I only paid $130 for it 20 years ago, but I would hate to have it stolen, or lost. If I travel I will probably get another Hi Point, if the baggage people steal my gun they probably won't get much for a Hi Point. Replacing the Star would be around $250, and not sure I would bother.
 

Wstar425

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I carry a Sig 226 SAO in an ElPaso Saddlery belt slide. I have two, one stock with G-10 grips for every day wear. The other is a one off Scorpion type wanna be that I created with some fun money I had from selling a John Deere tractor. So, as far as I know I have the only Scorpion 226 SAO! haha I did Magpul tan on the frame, and Magpul green on the slide so it is two tone but not an exact match to a real Scorpion. This is open carried on my dog walks where I am pretty sure I won't have someone walk up on me without me knowing it, as only friction retention. The Scorpion is, I guess, what you might call my BBQ gun, more dressed up, and concealed for church. I'm probably a Sig snob, tho not really. I used to carry a 686 Plus when we lived mostly up north, and did more walking in the woods, but today we are a city boy and dog. I have a couple of Berettas, a VP40, a BDE, a couple of Rugers, and a few other things but almost always carry the Sig. My wife has a 229 EE and a 938 Scorpion as well, plus quite a few deer hunting rifles that she got from her Dad.

I've never owned a Glock, nor held a Hi-Point. I guess I don't really care what others do, and only ask for the same consideration for me, as much as possible. I've noticed that tho the 686 6" is a much larger gun/holster combo, it doesn't seem to get the reaction that a semi auto does. And those seemed to be not noticed by most people, and the few that do don't seem to care much. I'm out and about conducting business, I have a reason for being somewhere, and a task at hand. If one was standing on the street corner holding a sign protesting, I think that would elicit a different response. Probably helps somewhat, tho it really shouldn't, that I'm an old white guy. I do live in a city that is about 50 percent Hispanic, and climbing. I've never seen anyone else here OC, of any color. My wife has a job in town of some authority, and I believe most people whether they have actually met me or not, know who I am because of her.
 
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deepdiver

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I usually carry a semi auto in the summer, but a revolver in colder weather. Currently I am carrying a Star Super A, I only paid $130 for it 20 years ago, but I would hate to have it stolen, or lost. If I travel I will probably get another Hi Point, if the baggage people steal my gun they probably won't get much for a Hi Point. Replacing the Star would be around $250, and not sure I would bother.

I'm the opposite. I typically carry a semi when OC or in winter when the clothing makes CC of it easy. In summer if CC a S&W Airweight in a pocket holster slips nicely into the front pocket of a pair of shorts. I don't have a revolver I OC,
 

redhawk44

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It has always seemed ludicrous and snobby to me for "gun people" who support expanding and encouraging exercise of our 2A rights to be snobby about any decent functional sidearm regardless of cost and attractiveness. The Hi Points have proved themselves to be inexpensive (and ugly) rather than cheap. Criticizing that choice, especially if it is all one can afford, does not encourage active 2A participation and engagement.

Oh, and I carry a semi-automatic except when I carry a revolver.

I think a 4' blued Colt Python is beautiful, and a Hi Point C-9 is ugly, does that make me a "snob"? I own and like my VZ2008, does that make me not a snob.

snob
[snäb]
NOUN

1. a person with an exaggerated respect for high social position or wealth who seeks to associate with social superiors and dislikes people or activities regarded as lower-class.

or

2. a person who believes that their tastes in a particular area are superior

So, a Hi Point enthusiast could be a snob, and, for the purpose of the discussion about Hi Points (though not so in the manufacturing industry), usually inexpensive and cheap are synonymous.

I have found, most "gun people" (enthusiasts) are fairly eclectic, open minded, logical, and yes, critical. One can be critical without criticizing. It is the nature of the firearms genre. Most enthusiasts do not form personal likes, preferences and opinions based on those of others. Are there those who fit one or both of the definitions of a firearm(s) snob and/or elitist, sure, but they are of no practical significance and do not influence the firearms and 2nd Amendment genre.

Bye the way, I AM considering buying Hi Point JHP45 and a 4595TS Carbine.
 
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