Kimberguy
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Got locked out of my office today(not my fault this time)
So I went to the Westwood mall.
Shopped around talked to a lot of people, got a few looks but overall good. Then I see the security looing at me from quite a distance, he looked a little worried. Now as usaual, I am in a suit minus the coat.
I go into the gap and see a blackman township cop talking to the security guy. I then go into the gap to check out some cloths.
I am having a friendly conversation with one of the girls there, when the cop comes in and motions with his finger to go see him,
Cop asks for ID
Me: "I don't believe i have to give you ID for lawful open carry sir"
Cop: It is posted at all the entrances that you can not carry a fire arm here, so lets see some ID"
me: "I would like to see the signs"
Cop: "Alright"
I caved, damnit... I know, should have just said i'm not even required to carry ID with me... I'll remember next time to leave it in my car.
So I handed him my military ID, he then asked if I had a drivers licence, I fished around my pocket for it... didn't want to pull the CPL... and I gave it to him.
we then walked out of the store together(still had the gun) but he has me walk in front of him.
we go to the security guy who looke dlike he felt really bad... I don't know if he realized i wasn't criminal when I wasn't in cuffs, or what the deal was. but the cop told him I wanted to see the sign so we went to the entrance I came in at and took a look at it.
it is a shet of paper framed on the wall next to the door unless you are looking for it you wouldn't see it, and at the bottom in I wold say about 10-12 pt font
"no firearms or illegal weappons"
I turned to the security guy and said
"sorry about that bro, never seen that before, I don't think I ever would have noticed it comming in here 1000 times"
again he looked at me and said: "no big deal" i didn't even know what to say after that.
the cop then escorted me to his car, and had me stand in fron of it while he checked to see if i was "legit to carry a gun."
While we were on the way to his car, he said
"you know you can be charged with a crime right"
me: "Yeah tresspassing"
then I think that is when he got flusterated with me
Cop: "no, I oculd charge you with a weappons charge, carrying in a no carry zone"
Me: "this is privte property posted no guns, it is tresspassing"
Cop: if it is posted MI lays says you can't carry so it is a weappons charge"
Cop: (under his breath) I love it when people try to tell me how to do my job"
When it is all done and said, he tells me: "you have the right to carry your firearm, consealed or out in the open, but it is not the stores responsibility to post signs where ppl will see them."
I wasn't going to get into it with him, I kept my mouth shut.
He asked me if I was going home, I said "no, i'm going to Walmart, would you like to secorte me through the mall to the other side?"
Cop: "no your fine"
as I walked in the security guy was tlaking with hi boss, either about posting signs where ppl could see them, or getting rid of them, not sure... but they know that what they have is a problem. I told them to cal me and we could perhaps see what we could work out because thi is getting bigger, and we will carry, and we need to know where not to go.
I know I messed up... next time, i own't have ID on me!
then I can't give it to them.... and I raelly need an audio recorder.
I am so threatening!!!
Got locked out of my office today(not my fault this time)
So I went to the Westwood mall.
Shopped around talked to a lot of people, got a few looks but overall good. Then I see the security looing at me from quite a distance, he looked a little worried. Now as usaual, I am in a suit minus the coat.
I go into the gap and see a blackman township cop talking to the security guy. I then go into the gap to check out some cloths.
I am having a friendly conversation with one of the girls there, when the cop comes in and motions with his finger to go see him,
Cop asks for ID
Me: "I don't believe i have to give you ID for lawful open carry sir"
Cop: It is posted at all the entrances that you can not carry a fire arm here, so lets see some ID"
me: "I would like to see the signs"
Cop: "Alright"
I caved, damnit... I know, should have just said i'm not even required to carry ID with me... I'll remember next time to leave it in my car.
So I handed him my military ID, he then asked if I had a drivers licence, I fished around my pocket for it... didn't want to pull the CPL... and I gave it to him.
we then walked out of the store together(still had the gun) but he has me walk in front of him.
we go to the security guy who looke dlike he felt really bad... I don't know if he realized i wasn't criminal when I wasn't in cuffs, or what the deal was. but the cop told him I wanted to see the sign so we went to the entrance I came in at and took a look at it.
it is a shet of paper framed on the wall next to the door unless you are looking for it you wouldn't see it, and at the bottom in I wold say about 10-12 pt font
"no firearms or illegal weappons"
I turned to the security guy and said
"sorry about that bro, never seen that before, I don't think I ever would have noticed it comming in here 1000 times"
again he looked at me and said: "no big deal" i didn't even know what to say after that.
the cop then escorted me to his car, and had me stand in fron of it while he checked to see if i was "legit to carry a gun."
While we were on the way to his car, he said
"you know you can be charged with a crime right"
me: "Yeah tresspassing"
then I think that is when he got flusterated with me
Cop: "no, I oculd charge you with a weappons charge, carrying in a no carry zone"
Me: "this is privte property posted no guns, it is tresspassing"
Cop: if it is posted MI lays says you can't carry so it is a weappons charge"
Cop: (under his breath) I love it when people try to tell me how to do my job"
When it is all done and said, he tells me: "you have the right to carry your firearm, consealed or out in the open, but it is not the stores responsibility to post signs where ppl will see them."
I wasn't going to get into it with him, I kept my mouth shut.
He asked me if I was going home, I said "no, i'm going to Walmart, would you like to secorte me through the mall to the other side?"
Cop: "no your fine"
as I walked in the security guy was tlaking with hi boss, either about posting signs where ppl could see them, or getting rid of them, not sure... but they know that what they have is a problem. I told them to cal me and we could perhaps see what we could work out because thi is getting bigger, and we will carry, and we need to know where not to go.
I know I messed up... next time, i own't have ID on me!
then I can't give it to them.... and I raelly need an audio recorder.
I am so threatening!!!