I downloaded the CHP application/renewal form last night while I was OC'ing, and was OC'ing as I filled out the application (at a VERY OC friendly business that encourages folks to OC while there) and as I was planning my trip to the court house and reviewing my OC options/requirements for when I drop off my renewal....I noticed that on the Virginia Beach Circuit Court web site that it states that "Where To File: The application review process begins with filing the completed application with the Virginia Beach Police Department, 2509 Princess Anne Road, Support Division - Records Unit, Building 11 at the Virginia Beach Municipal Center."
Frankly I probably wouldn't have thought about that for more than a moment except for everything that I've learned on here about knowing the statutes and having read the stories about folks who've had problems with their application. So I can't help but wonder about this point: § 18.2-308 says that you apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court and doesn't say anything at all about submitting your application to the police (first or otherwise).
"§ 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.
D. Any person 21 years of age or older may apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court of the county or city in which he resides, or if he is a member of the United States Armed Forces, the county or city in which he is domiciled, for a five-year permit to carry a concealed handgun."
Cite out of the way, is this a nitpick or something that should be of concern? I'm referring to and thinking of all of the stories that I've read on here about folks having problems with their applications and the clerk's offices and wanting proof that the clerk has received the application and all that, and factor all that against that technically if you follow the Virginia Beach Circuit Court's requirement you haven't submitted your application to the clerk at all. And that you're actually "counting" on the VB PD to accept, review, process and then forward your application to the clerk. (And who gets the "blame" then if it is lost or otherwise delayed?)
Does §18.2-308 in fact allow the circuit courts to make their own interpretation of the meaning of "apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court"?
Oh, and yes I can actually OC to the VB PD if in fact I drop my application there -- they do have a sign asking you to not enter with a firearm but that is of course a suggestion only.
Frankly I probably wouldn't have thought about that for more than a moment except for everything that I've learned on here about knowing the statutes and having read the stories about folks who've had problems with their application. So I can't help but wonder about this point: § 18.2-308 says that you apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court and doesn't say anything at all about submitting your application to the police (first or otherwise).
"§ 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.
D. Any person 21 years of age or older may apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court of the county or city in which he resides, or if he is a member of the United States Armed Forces, the county or city in which he is domiciled, for a five-year permit to carry a concealed handgun."
Cite out of the way, is this a nitpick or something that should be of concern? I'm referring to and thinking of all of the stories that I've read on here about folks having problems with their applications and the clerk's offices and wanting proof that the clerk has received the application and all that, and factor all that against that technically if you follow the Virginia Beach Circuit Court's requirement you haven't submitted your application to the clerk at all. And that you're actually "counting" on the VB PD to accept, review, process and then forward your application to the clerk. (And who gets the "blame" then if it is lost or otherwise delayed?)
Does §18.2-308 in fact allow the circuit courts to make their own interpretation of the meaning of "apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court"?
Oh, and yes I can actually OC to the VB PD if in fact I drop my application there -- they do have a sign asking you to not enter with a firearm but that is of course a suggestion only.