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Virginia’s Democratic Government Announced It Will Begin Confiscating Guns From Law-Abiding Gun Owners. Red State

taurusfan

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So this below is out of context? What is the context?

"B. It is unlawful for any person to import, sell, manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport an assault firearm. A violation of this section is punishable as a Class 6 felony."
 

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So this below is out of context? What is the context?

"B. It is unlawful for any person to import, sell, manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport an assault firearm. A violation of this section is punishable as a Class 6 felony."
I'm not sure of your question, but Part B is refering to Part A, the definition of assault firearm.
 

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taurusfan "B" refers to definition outlined in paragraphs # 1 & 2 above which states the definition of 'assault weapon' with mag in excess of 10 rounds!

citizens in possession of an assault weapons with mags greater than 10 rounds is punishable by blah blah blah!
 

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Make no mistake SB 16 is a total ban:


"SB 16, introduced by Sen. Richard L. Saslaw, would create a total ban on commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms, like the AR-15. Even worse, the ban would even extend to common firearm parts. The restrictions included in the proposed legislation does not grandfather current owners. The legislation is clearly designed to be firearms confiscation, as current owners would be forced to dispossess themselves of their property or face a felony conviction."

Northam is proposing no new sales and registration for current owners:


"Virginia Governor Ralph Northam is backing a proposed ban on “assault weapons” that would prohibit the sale of many semi-automatic firearm designs like the AR-15, but would grandfather existing owners of the weapons so long as they are registered — or else face surrender"
 

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Make no mistake SB 16 is a total ban:

snippp..

do yourself a favor and read the proposed legislation yourself instead of relying on self reporting info from an organization [ILA] whose SOLE motive is shock & awe to garner $$$$...
 

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"The Northam-backed bill would go into effect in July, but would allow people who already own an assault weapon to obtain a permit from the state for restricted use. Without a permit, the guns would have to be disposed of, surrendered or made inoperable by January 2021."

"restricted use," what the heck does that mean?
 

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"The Northam-backed bill would go into effect in July, but would allow people who already own an assault weapon to obtain a permit from the state for restricted use. Without a permit, the guns would have to be disposed of, surrendered or made inoperable by January 2021."

"restricted use," what the heck does that mean?

1. please OP, in the future, provide a cite which doesn't require a subscription.
2. Levine's PROPOSED HB 961 is just that ~ PROPOSED on the 8th of Jan 2020! [ http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+HB961 ]

here is what is summary of PROPOSED...

3. 18.2.308.8 ~ Assault firearm" means:

1. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material with a fixed magazine capacity
in excess of 10 rounds;

2. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has one of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the rifle; (iii) a thumbhole stock; (iv) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (v) a bayonet mount; (vi) a grenade launcher; (vii) a flare launcher; (viii) a silencer; (ix) a flash suppressor; (x) a muzzle brake; (xi) a muzzle compensator; (xii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting (a) a silencer, (b) a flash suppressor, (c) a muzzle brake, or (d) a muzzle compensator; or (xiii) any characteristic of like kind as enumerated in clauses (i) through (xii);

3 >
defines pistols & shotguns...

this # of cartridges referenced is a change from the previously offered PROPOSED bill we previously discussed on this thread!

4. 18.2-308.12. Surrender, etc., of prohibited assault firearm, firearm magazine, silencer, and trigger activator.

Any person who legally owns an assault firearm, as defined in § 18.2-308.8, large-capacity firearm magazine, as defined in § 18.2-308.9, silencer, as defined in § 18.2-308.10, or trigger activator, as defined in § 18.2-308.11, on July 1, 2020, may retain possession of such assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator until January 1, 2021. During this time period, such person shall (i) render the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator permanently inoperable; (ii) remove the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a person outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator; or (iv) surrender the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a state or local law-enforcement agency. A person who legally owns an assault firearm on July 1, 2020, may retain possession of such assault firearm after January 1, 2021, if such person has obtained a permit to possess an assault firearm from the Department of State Police in accordance with subsection § 18.2-308.13. The provisions of § 15.2- 915.5 shall not apply to any assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger device surrendered to a local law-enforcement agency pursuant to this section.

get rid of large mags....B U T wait...

18.2-308.13. Permit to possess assault firearm; civil penalty.

A. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm on July 1, 2020, may apply for a permit to possess such assault firearm

B > details about whats & hows & whose on first!

D. A person issued a permit to possess an assault firearm pursuant to subsection B
may possess an assault firearm only under the following conditions:

1. While in his home or on his property or while on the property of another who has provided prior permission, provided that the person has the landowner's written permission on his person while on such property;

2.
While at a shooting range, shooting gallery, or other area designated for the purpose of target shooting or the target range of a public or private club or organization whose members have organized for the purpose of practicing shooting targets or competing in target shooting matches;

3. While engaged in lawful hunting; or

4. While surrendering the assault firearm to a state or local law-enforcement agency.


guess i missed any type of restrictive use...

please be informed instead of depending on newspeek & social media shock and awe pushing political rhetoric which is nothing more that rants...

so if citizens can be granted yet another privilege card [except LEs] what on this flat earth is the uproar on a need for 2A sanctuary city/county?

as stated...wish in one hand and...

PS: for those looking at the PROPOSED HB...the info cited above is down towards the bottom.
 

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If cops would tell these legislators that no proposed legislation, such as is described above, will be enforced. This would mitigate all proposed infringements.
 

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If cops would tell these legislators that no proposed legislation, such as is described above, will be enforced. This would mitigate all proposed infringements.
All they (cops) have to say is their oath of office prevents them from enforcing any statute that is in conflict with the law of the land including the Virginia constitution. Further, since both those documents were written in such simple form that the ordinary common man can understand, judicial interpretation would be inconsequential. And further, since officers poses discretion, any mandate to enforce unconstitutional statutes would be deemed an illegal act.
 

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The last thing we need to do is promote a armed revolt. We need to let the left keep using a backhoe digging their own grave. We also need to keep a eye on the rest of the bills that are introduced. Northam is sitting on a powder keg at this point.
 

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View and overview from the other side.

Nemo



The New York Times
What to Know About the Virginia Gun Rally

Sarah Mervosh, 7 hrs ago

Thousands of activists from across the country are expected to descend on the Virginia State Capitol on Monday to rally against sweeping new gun control proposals supported by state Democrats.

But the rally in Richmond — billed as a peaceful event to lobby lawmakers to defend Second Amendment rights — has quickly set off fears of potential violence and chaos. Discussions about the rally have been lighting up online platforms frequented by anti-government militia groups and white supremacists for weeks, and various extremist groups have vowed to attend.

Tensions escalated this week when Gov. Ralph Northam declared a state of emergency and temporarily banned weapons on Capitol grounds, citing credible “threats of violence.” The F.B.I. also announced the arrest of three suspected neo-Nazis who the authorities said had obtained weapons and discussed participating in the Richmond event, intensifying concerns.

Here’s what you need to know about the rally and what to expect for Monday.

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Well, the House of Delegates committee this morning sent HB 961 on ahead by a vote of 12 to 9.

The following changes were made:

1) owner's of 'assault weapons' don't have to register them with the State Police
2) maximum magazine capacity increased to 12 rounds
3) no more open carrying of a rifle if you have a concealed carry permit in certain larger cities like Richmond.

After January 2021 you have to dispose of your magazines over 12 rounds or you're a class 6 felon.

What else?
 

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Sad day for Old Dominion...

This is only the beginning for the dildocrats....they will continue to push the envelopes even more as time goes on.

Will this new law also apply to the "Mentally challenged and the Criminals?

If it didnt work in Chitago....what make them think its going to work in VA?
 

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Sad day for Old Dominion...

This is only the beginning for the dildocrats....they will continue to push the envelopes even more as time goes on.

Will this new law also apply to the "Mentally challenged and the Criminals?

If it didnt work in Chitago....what make them think its going to work in VA?
...it all depends on who gets to define "works"...
 
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