Video of open carry at Idaho zoo

[deepdiver]

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I'm going to give a bit of a +1 to the anchor or her copy writer. At the intro, she states that the OCers had some other parents at the zoo "surprised". Not scared, not nervous, not concerned, but surprised which appears to be an accurate, non-emotional charged, non-judgmental way to phrase it.

 

[sv_libertarian]

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tanman wrote:

I thought the lack of state premption for carry period was the reason...

RCW 9.41.300;

(2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:

(a) Restricting the discharge of firearms in any portion of their respective jurisdictions where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized. Such laws and ordinances shall not abridge the right of the individual guaranteed by Article I, section 24 of the state Constitution to bear arms in defense of self or others; and

(b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:

(i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or


Cities, towns, counties and other municipalities can resrict carry. Thus, not anyone can OC in these places, however for most of usour CPLs take care of this issue.

Ok the discharge of firearms has to do with target shooting not carry. The convention center stuff is a minor issue. There is total state preemption. What you just cited is the most any lesser government in this state can regulate firearms on.

 

[Bear 45/70]

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tanman wrote:

sv_libertarian wrote:

I found the link to the Idaho Statesman easy enough.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/447064.html

I could not find a faulty map showing OC was banned in this state.

Washington is marked "anamolous" because of license carry in a vehicle, and because some law enforcement agencies still haven't quite figured out the full facts about the legality of OC.

To copy a link, highlight it in your address bar, then right click on it and choose "copy" then right click "paste" it in your message.

I thought the lack of state premption for carry period was the reason...

RCW 9.41.300;

(2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:

(a) Restricting the discharge of firearms in any portion of their respective jurisdictions where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized. Such laws and ordinances shall not abridge the right of the individual guaranteed by Article I, section 24 of the state Constitution to bear arms in defense of self or others; and

(b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:

(i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or


Cities, towns, counties and other municipalities can resrict carry. Thus, not anyone can OC in these places, however for most of usour CPLs take care of this issue.

No the cities, etc can not restrict carry. They can restrict the discharge not the carry as the Article1 section 24 say you get to carry. The way I read that is the convention center thing is that the local government can restrict OC unless you have a CPL, then you are free to carry.

 

[boom]

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SlacK wrote:

sv_libertarian wrote:

http://www.2news.tv/news/25651079.html

It's not an OCDO map, and she said "opencarry.com" as opposed to "opencarry.org"

Idiot.

have you ever gone to opencarry.com???

try it sometime, it is opencarry.org

I know y'all adressed it, but I imediately typed in opencarry.com when the news report aired, and it does default to the correct site. It was a simple mistake. The important thing is the publicity. This story was picked up by the AP and went national and I have even heard international. This has sparked debates on blogs around the country. Visit the idaho posts for links. This group is already planning another event involving cleaning up a roadway next month.

 

[royAG46]

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Bear 45/70 wrote:

tanman wrote:

sv_libertarian wrote:

...Washington is marked "anamolous" because of license carry in a vehicle, and because some law enforcement agencies still haven't quite figured out the full facts about the legality of OC...

I thought the lack of state premption for carry period was the reason...

RCW 9.41.300;

... (b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:

(i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or


Cities, towns, counties and other municipalities can resrict carry. Thus, not anyone can OC in these places, however for most of usour CPLs take care of this issue.

No the cities, etc can not restrict carry. They can restrict the discharge not the carry as the Article1 section 24 say you get to carry. The way I read that is the convention center thing is that the local government can restrict OC unless you have a CPL, then you are free to carry.

Exactly- they can restrict OC more than the state, thus there is not total state preemption. I'm not saying SV_libertarian is wrong- just bringing up an issue most of us that have CPL's don't consider and that OCDO and visitors to our fair state do.

 

[sv_libertarian]

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This applies only to stadiums and convention centers. Period. End of story. You are making more of this than there is.

 

[Bear 45/70]

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tanman wrote:

Bear 45/70 wrote:

tanman wrote:

sv_libertarian wrote:

...Washington is marked "anamolous" because of license carry in a vehicle, and because some law enforcement agencies still haven't quite figured out the full facts about the legality of OC...

I thought the lack of state premption for carry period was the reason...

RCW 9.41.300;

... (b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:

(i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or


Cities, towns, counties and other municipalities can resrict carry. Thus, not anyone can OC in these places, however for most of usour CPLs take care of this issue.

No the cities, etc can not restrict carry. They can restrict the discharge not the carry as the Article1 section 24 say you get to carry. The way I read that is the convention center thing is that the local government can restrict OC unless you have a CPL, then you are free to carry.

Exactly- they can restrict OC more than the state, thus there is not total state preemption. I'm not saying SV_libertarian is wrong- just bringing up an issue most of us that have CPL's don't consider and that OCDO and visitors to our fair state do.

No cities, counties and mucips can not restrict anything more than the state law says. As sv says, convention centers yes but not anywhere else ever. The state law is god when it comes to firearms because of premption.

 

[Bill Starks]

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This has sparked debates on blogs around the country. Visit the idaho posts for links. This group is already planning another event involving cleaning up a roadway next month.

We too are planning a roadway cleanup in August.
I-5 South, Pierce County / King County Line to 54th Ave in Fife.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum55/12400.html