I know this has changed recently, but doesn't Alabama have constitutional carry now? Doesn't seem like they are similar anymore.
With all the work that appears to need doing in Ohio, why do citizens of Ohio come to the Ky. sub-forum of OCDO and attempt to malign and diminish the advances in the RKBA in Ky.? Is it jealousy or is it just the feelings of impotence that comes with their own inability to make any meaningful advances in their own state?
Can anybody that lives or spends time in Ky. say that things are not better now that they were 25 years ago? We have an excellent concealed carry law, we have an effective preemption law and now we have constitutional carry. There are a few problems left, but they will be dealt with, in time. I hear a great deal of dissatisfaction from some people on this board, but I never hear any offers from them to join in and share the work required to make these advances come about. I never see them walking the hallways of the Capital annex, I never hear them testify in committee meetings, I never bump into them in the waiting rooms while waiting to talk to a legislator. I never see any donation come into KC3 to help pay the bills. All I ever see or hear from them is the whining that appears on the pages of OCDO. I suspect that these people do not work well in groups. You know, "does not play well with others." I also suspect that they do not want to expose themslves to the failures that naturally go along with working to change laws. We failed for four years before we got this done. It can be very frustrating. Not everybody can handle the fact that your failures will exceed your victories by a factor of 10.
I wish that changes could come more quickly and more completely in Ky. but I have come to see that by taking small steps we can accomplish something as opposed to screaming for more advanced reforms and pounding our chests to proclaim that we are the "true believers" in the constitution while gaining nothing for years and years. I think it can best be likened to a comparison between loud, blaring, vulgar rap music on the radio and the sound of a really fine orchestra playing beautiful classical music.
Most of the time ,capitulating , compromising a constitutional right to do "something' just for the sake of doing somthing does more harm than good.
Many times its better to stand on the constitution ,the law of the land , and do nothing rather than accepting unconstitutional, illegal regulations.
CCDW law is a good example. It was and infringement, violating both the ky constitution as well as the COTUS.
It passed in the mid nineties. Not accepted then by 2000 we would have had permit less concealed carry . Instead, " small ,unconstitutional steps " were taken to get ccdw passed in order to do "something".
Its taken all this time to get permit less cc in ky when doing something in the mid 90s let the state saddle us with a concealed carry law it had no authority to create in the first place . And all the regulations that went with it.
And some ky gun owners thought that was progress.
I can honestly say before ccdw I had never seen a no gun sign and open carried anywhere I wanted too .
And anyone wanting to cc simply did. As they had the right to do.
We don't have constitutional carry. No state does
What we have if the Gov signs it is ky " allowing " us to do what we already have a right to do without paying to do it . Though they still won't admit they have no authority to say who can and cannot carry.
Another is Goforths proposals that require permits OC in specific places and Moore's.
As to the rest. One Kc3 doesn't have a working website , that can be found anyway. Any question asked about usually gets you rudely jumping in with " why do you want to know".
Not a good fund raising plan.
And since you don't personally know every gun owner in ky why would you think you would know if you bumped into one.?
I'm glad permit less carry will be law here in ky. There should never have been a permit to carry to get rid of.
But so far its the only gun bill put forth this session worth supporting.