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Tea Party has been officially co-opted by the establishment

Jack House

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Democrats don't need one. Republicans need grassroots movements because they are not as savvy online as Democrats--Democrats spend twice as much time on the internet, not because they have to but because they can, living off the tit of the rich; maybe that's the grassroots movement!:p

Proof is in the pudding, I bet my daily average post on here is twice as much as yours!
That just says to me that Democrats aren't savvy shoppers. :p
 

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Lately, some people try to link "neoconservative" with meaning "pro-Israel."

"That guy there is a neocon."
"OMG, just say what you mean and stop using code words! You're mad because he's pro-Israel and you're an anti-semite!"
"wut?"

Over the last thirty years, I've observed that most humans are not open minded in the least. Instead, they bend over backwards to pigeon-hole others into little niches in which they feel they can understand while actually trying to understand the others. Provided the others conform to their tiny little niche, all is well. When they don't, whether it's a visitor or one's daughter, all hell breaks loose.

Anyway, yes, the Tea Party ain't what it used to be. Some people say the Tea Party was started by Rick Santelli. I tell those people to go put Tea Party 2007 into Youtube search and see what happens.

The Tea Party has been many things to many people. Few people have ever been able to pin it down. One person that has is Bill Whittle. He nailed it, six ways to Sunday. If you're complaining about the Tea Party on grounds beyond what his series identifies, you'd better have a tremendous argument. I've yet to see any such argument, though, either inside this venue, or anywhere on the outside. What I have seen is a gross distortion of reality that consistently fails to match any segment of the last 38 years of my life. Beyond that, I was a kid, riding my bicycle all around town, playing G.I. Joe in the woods, and wrestling my friends in my backyard pool, in the woods, and on the school playground.

Steve N., step in here, either to say "No way" or "Yep, that's what we did." Thanks.

It's too bad... I see so many people claim they are Tea Party now, and then they want to vote Mitt or Newt over Ron Paul. You'd think people in the Taxed Enough Already Party would go for the limited-government guy who has never voted to raise taxes and who wants to eliminate the entire income tax and IRS, but nope. These people are liars and hypocrites.

I wouldn't call them "liars and hypocrites." I'd call them "hoodwinked."

And now we have supposed-tea-party-darling Sarah Palin unofficially endorsing progressive Newt. That pretty much seals the end of the real Tea Party imo.

So Romney's out, and so is Newt?"

So I was driving to work one morning...

Although I'm good for $50k/year, I've chosen not to work this year and instead work towards ensuring Obama never sees the light of a single day beyond his last official day in office. May he retire well, long, and in luxurious gardens! But with no more input into American than "I think..." with the American people, having realized what a charlatan he is, ask him "Why did you say this?"
 

Daylen

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Democrats don't need one. Republicans need grassroots movements because they are not as savvy online as Democrats--Democrats spend twice as much time on the internet, not because they have to but because they can, living off the tit of the rich; maybe that's the grassroots movement!:p

Proof is in the pudding, I bet my daily average post on here is twice as much as yours!

I'd hope its more than twice. I try to minimize how many posts I make. Internet use is almost a dirty habit, its slightly useful, but more of a waste of potentially productive time.
 

Beretta92FSLady

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In what world in Romney a conservative? Your location is really misleading. You might as well give up drinking now, so you don't detox when all your beer budget is sent my way.


Romney is a moderate, left leaning IMO. Ironic that Republicans are voting for him in such large numbers so far...but what's the alternative though?...Gingrich!
 

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Romney is a moderate, left leaning IMO. Ironic that Republicans are voting for him in such large numbers so far...but what's the alternative though?...Gingrich!

There's that truly small-government and truly conservative guy Ron Paul.

Oh... I forgot... the neocon establishment doesn't like him because he's not interested in blowing up Iran just because they look at us funny.
 

Beretta92FSLady

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There's that truly small-government and truly conservative guy Ron Paul.

Oh... I forgot... the neocon establishment doesn't like him because he's not interested in blowing up Iran just because they look at us funny.

Hey, don't blame me for Republicans not having their priorities straight. It appears establishment Republicans are just as bad as establishment Democrats. Yet Paul keeps reaching out from the Republican side, ODD!
 

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Romney is a moderate, left leaning IMO. Ironic that Republicans are voting for him in such large numbers so far...but what's the alternative though?...Gingrich!

Right...

That's why I questioned your premise that he was a conservative and why many other posters including myself question your grip on reality and wonder what sort of chemically induced delusions inspire some of your posts. Better save some of your spray paint budget for my beer.

Yes indeed, what alternative do we have? The moonbat messiah's minions threw leftist whores out into the public with unsubstantiated accusations of activity that was OK when Clinton was doing it until they finally took out the real black american, and real conservative candidate.



There's that truly small-government and truly conservative guy Ron Paul.

Oh... I forgot... the neocon establishment doesn't like him because he's not interested in blowing up Iran just because they look at us funny.

RP would be my second choice, not because I want to blow up Iran but because I'm not interested in waiting until they have the ability to hit us before we hit them. If you're under the delusion that these idiots aren't actively looking forward too collecting their virgins you're just as insane as they are.

Anyone who is further under the delusions that only "neo-cons" (whatever the hell they are) promote the "military industrial complex" need too consider how many democraps are heavily invested in military companies, promote the industry and have done nothing too draw down our military foriegn presence. It's not just a "neo-con" thing.
 

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Anyone who is further under the delusions that only "neo-cons" (whatever the hell they are) promote the "military industrial complex" need too consider how many democraps are heavily invested in military companies, promote the industry and have done nothing too draw down our military foriegn presence. It's not just a "neo-con" thing.

Correct. It is a "big government" thing.
 

PrayingForWar

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Correct. Which is why I normally try to use that word. Unless the subject is more specifically about a certain group.

It's preferable over what I consider to be a stupid term. "Neocon" sounds like a term coined by some bed wetting libtard proffesor who wants too disassociate their own authortarian agenda from what I consider to be other libtards who call themselves republicans. Like Karl Rove or Pit Romney, who are also statists that seem just as comfortable telling people how to behave as environazis are telling us how to live. "Neofascists" seems like a more fitting term.
 

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It's preferable over what I consider to be a stupid term. "Neocon" sounds like a term coined by some bed wetting libtard proffesor who wants too disassociate their own authortarian agenda from what I consider to be other libtards who call themselves republicans.

That's cool. You can call people like Newt and Bush libtard instead of neocon if you want.
 
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