Liko81
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First of all, I keep erroring out when I search the forums for Taurus 24/7, so don't accuse me of not having searched .
I'm in the market for an inexpensive (<$600, preferably <$450), concealable .45ACP for general carry (Remember Texans can't OC yet). I've been kind of spoiled, as my Ruger P95 has been perfect in its operation. I'm only looking for a new CC, and for a 45,simply foradditional options (don't let anyone ever tell you you can't conceal a P95, but agree when they say the lump is among the more easy-to-spot when tucked IWB). Models under consideration include theRuger P345, M&P .45, Glock 30, S&W .45 Tactical, and Springfield 1911 GI Officer's model. Between size, capacity, ergo, reliability and safety issues, all of these have a downside I am concerned with. The M&P is the front-runner, but it's $500, a full-size double-stack .45which means concealing it poses a challenge, and I have some reservations about an SAO striker-fired design. First,hit a dud and it's tap-rack-squeeze; you don't get another chance at that cartridge. Second, the manual safety, where it exists,is just insanely easy to nudge off, and the gun was not AFAIK originally designed with one; coupled with a 5-lb trigger (it's crisp, I'll give it that)and a trigger latch that forms the entire lower half of the trigger face, the chances of an ND are IMO the highest of anything under consideration. Even the SA 1911 has a crisper safety and Glock's trigger latch is a little more resistant to shirttail catches. The other two have the safety I'm used to andhave confidence in, and decock when the safety's engaged.
Iam starting to take acurious look at the Taurus 24/7 Pro and Pro Compact in .45ACP. Being striker-fired, it's in the vein of the M&P whichI like, and 12+1 capacity is the highest I've seen in a compact-slide pistol yet. The 24/7 .45ACPis also available with 3-dot sights which is preferable to me over the2-dot. Perhaps most importantly, the design is SA/DA;a pull of the trigger with the safety offwill send pin into primer every time, which the M&P and XD will not do.I have however heard and seen some disturbing things about Tauruses. First,it's a Taurus; just like Hyundai has yet to convince me their cars are worth looking at since my dad's mistake with the Excel 20 years ago, Tauri seem to have a reputation for unreliability in feeding and cyclingand when it just has to work you can't settle for something you don't trust. Second, there is a YouTube video floating around in which an issue with the safety is demonstrated; the safety apparently will not prevent the weapon firing if the trigger was pulled back when the safety was engaged. Rule 3 notwithstanding, if a weapon has a manual safety but I can't be sure it'll do the job, I will look elsewhere (the whole trust thing).
After all that, my question to you guys is, are the 24/7 Pro and Pro C worth a look? At about $350 retail with better deals at gun showsit'd be the cheapest gun under consideration, andit's got the features I'm looking for (capacity, ergo, DA/SA operation and CC-friendly); if I can trusta new oneto do the job then I'll set their past history to the back of my mind when looking at them. If I can't, then I'll save a few hundred more for something I can.
First of all, I keep erroring out when I search the forums for Taurus 24/7, so don't accuse me of not having searched .
I'm in the market for an inexpensive (<$600, preferably <$450), concealable .45ACP for general carry (Remember Texans can't OC yet). I've been kind of spoiled, as my Ruger P95 has been perfect in its operation. I'm only looking for a new CC, and for a 45,simply foradditional options (don't let anyone ever tell you you can't conceal a P95, but agree when they say the lump is among the more easy-to-spot when tucked IWB). Models under consideration include theRuger P345, M&P .45, Glock 30, S&W .45 Tactical, and Springfield 1911 GI Officer's model. Between size, capacity, ergo, reliability and safety issues, all of these have a downside I am concerned with. The M&P is the front-runner, but it's $500, a full-size double-stack .45which means concealing it poses a challenge, and I have some reservations about an SAO striker-fired design. First,hit a dud and it's tap-rack-squeeze; you don't get another chance at that cartridge. Second, the manual safety, where it exists,is just insanely easy to nudge off, and the gun was not AFAIK originally designed with one; coupled with a 5-lb trigger (it's crisp, I'll give it that)and a trigger latch that forms the entire lower half of the trigger face, the chances of an ND are IMO the highest of anything under consideration. Even the SA 1911 has a crisper safety and Glock's trigger latch is a little more resistant to shirttail catches. The other two have the safety I'm used to andhave confidence in, and decock when the safety's engaged.
Iam starting to take acurious look at the Taurus 24/7 Pro and Pro Compact in .45ACP. Being striker-fired, it's in the vein of the M&P whichI like, and 12+1 capacity is the highest I've seen in a compact-slide pistol yet. The 24/7 .45ACPis also available with 3-dot sights which is preferable to me over the2-dot. Perhaps most importantly, the design is SA/DA;a pull of the trigger with the safety offwill send pin into primer every time, which the M&P and XD will not do.I have however heard and seen some disturbing things about Tauruses. First,it's a Taurus; just like Hyundai has yet to convince me their cars are worth looking at since my dad's mistake with the Excel 20 years ago, Tauri seem to have a reputation for unreliability in feeding and cyclingand when it just has to work you can't settle for something you don't trust. Second, there is a YouTube video floating around in which an issue with the safety is demonstrated; the safety apparently will not prevent the weapon firing if the trigger was pulled back when the safety was engaged. Rule 3 notwithstanding, if a weapon has a manual safety but I can't be sure it'll do the job, I will look elsewhere (the whole trust thing).
After all that, my question to you guys is, are the 24/7 Pro and Pro C worth a look? At about $350 retail with better deals at gun showsit'd be the cheapest gun under consideration, andit's got the features I'm looking for (capacity, ergo, DA/SA operation and CC-friendly); if I can trusta new oneto do the job then I'll set their past history to the back of my mind when looking at them. If I can't, then I'll save a few hundred more for something I can.