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TANEY COUNTY CCW APPROVAL TIME?

15mtyler

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I am going to the sheriffs office later this afternoon to be fingerprinted ETC, for my ccw permit, Im 21, no issues with the law. I know it CAN take up to 45 days, but has anyone recently been approved, and if so, how long did it actually take?
 

countryclubjoe

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How revolving that a law abiding citizen needs to be finger printed like a common criminal and made to wait and pay for a government issued permission slip, before said citizen can exercise his/her right to keep and bear arms and protect himself/herself and family from those that may attempt to do them ill will.. Should our law abiding citizen or family member thereof be a victim of a heinous crime while waiting for said permission slip from his government masters, who or whom will be " legally responsible" either criminally or civilly for rendering our law abiding citizen and his/her family defenseless?...

Please be advised, I am not advocating that any citizen should break any laws, has I have been accused in other threads.. I am simple wondering who would be responsible "legally" in the event that our law abiding citizen becomes a victim of a crime during the inconvenient wait period established by the government.

" The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"..
" A free people claim their rights, as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their magistrates" Jefferson
"" To constrain men to ANY inconvenience doth seem " unreasonable".. John Locke

In my humble opinion, a law abiding citizen should not be taxed, via a license or permit slip, to exercise a right..

Please also be advised that I shall expound my theory on each and every thread where a member is querying about a permit slip and or a license..

Every day that a law abiding citizen is unarmed due in-part to no fault of his/her own self, everyday that said citizen is waiting for his/her license or permission slip from the government magistrates etc, said unarmed citizen is a lamb amongst wolves.

License requirement or permission slip is nothing more than a TAX in disguise..

My .02
Regards
CCJ
 

9026543

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A government issued permit slip is not required to legally carry a concealed firearm in the state of MO.
 

Grapeshot

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deepdiver

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How did I miss that?
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Are non residents covered by this as well? Any big fish hooks of which to be aware?
Yes, non-residents as well. Yes, there are big fish hooks. Without getting too far into the weeds the basics are:
New statute language:
"Unlawful use of weapons--exceptions--penalties.
571.030. 1. A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons, except as otherwise provided by sections 571.101 to 571.121, if he or she knowingly:
(1) Carries concealed upon or about his or her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any area where firearms are restricted under section 571.107"

The change to the law added the language "into any area where firearms are restricted under section 571.107", thereby eliminating the blanket prohibition of carrying concealed weapons (which was previously dealt with by just exempting CC permit holders).

571.07 has 17 subsections listing places you cannot carry concealed
http://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=571.107&bid=29721&hl=

There is no state statutory prohibition against OC, but municipalities can pass ordinances banning OC. All other firearms matters, excepting discharge in city limits, are preempted by the state legislature. MO recognizes CC license/permits from all other states/US jurisdictions.

So nutshell, without getting into age stuff, if you can pass an NICS background check to purchase, otherwise meet the '68 GCA requirements for purchasing a handgun, haven't been adjudicated incompetent and aren't possessing illegal drugs (or drugs illegally), you can CC in MO without any license except into those places listed in 571.07.

IMO, there are 2 big fishhooks to our new "constitutional carry" and one other long standing one:
1) If you have a CC license/permit, per 571.07, "carrying of a concealed firearm in a location specified in subdivisions (1) to (17) of subsection 1 of this section by any individual who holds a concealed carry permit... shall not be a criminal act but may subject the person to denial to the premises or removal from the premises." No such protection against criminal acts is extended to CC w/o a permit. IMO if you are "constitutionally CC" in MO and it is a place on that list or there is any no firearm postings, stay out of there. If you have a CC all they can do is ask you to leave and if you are compliant and aren't a jerk about it, go on, have a good day, nothing burger.

2)OC is pretty much ok everywhere, or at least is not criminal, if you have a CC permit as that overrides ordinances prohibiting OC. Without that CC permit, you better know your area and you better know city limits lines so you don't OC where banned by ordinance. Most areas that isn't too difficult, but in many MO suburbs there's a lot of gerrymandering of city limit lines and just crossing the street can take you from OC ok to OC get ticket.

3) Carrying a firearm onto a bus, any bus, is usually a criminal act with or without a CC permit.
http://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=577.703&bid=30048&hl=
 
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KBCraig

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Shame. I grew up going to SDC every year (save one, 1984) from the age of 6 until I graduated college. I missed a few years and then took my sons in 1999, then again in 2004. It's not the same magical place now, but I'd still love to visit for the nostalgia.

And SOTH re-imagined as an ATV adventure park? That just breaks my heart.
 
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