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St. louis Alderwoman pushed assault weapons ban. Wait. What?

countryclubjoe

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O'realy ? I don't care what courts think in reference to our rights.

david, I hear you, however when a constitutional right is exercised by a citizen and said citizens right is violated by the government, said citizens only redress is via the court.. There is no magic formula.. Hence an intense study of constitutional law is our only defense along with the where with all to fight via court.. I am fortunate that I possess both!


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david, I hear you, however when a constitutional right is exercised by a citizen and said citizens right is violated by the government, said citizens only redress is via the court.. There is no magic formula.. Hence an intense study of constitutional law is our only defense along with the where with all to fight via court.. I am fortunate that I possess both!


My .02

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Newton would disagree. Laws cannot be violated ~ if a law can be violated then it never was a law to begin with.
 

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Who cares what .govs say about your rights ... they cannot regulate them and turn them into permissions. That's not what rights are all about.

I care about my involvement and what they say about those rights. Turn those rights into permissions, prosecute me for not getting permission and lock me up for a year or 3 while the appeal goes through. Gets denied and another year or 2 while it goes on up to the next stage.

So I spend 5 years at the steel bar hotel while that is going on and then get an-- oops, sorry. How about you take my place while I fight it in courts on the civil side and legislative side.

Nemo
 
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Newton would disagree. Laws cannot be violated ~ if a law can be violated then it never was a law to begin with.

didn't newton just have his third law violated, with NASA's newest propulsion design?
 
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didn't newton just have his third law violated, with NASA's newest propulsion design?
The "laws" of nature are written and interpreted by man - as such are as failible as the author.

So too are the laws/statutes/ordinances found within our system.
 

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didn't newton just have his third law violated, with NASA's newest propulsion design?

I doubt it ... once a law is established its considered golden....the requirement to disprove it is upon the party claiming that the law is no longer valid.

But the EM drive doesn't work that way. Its thrust seems to come from the impact of photons on the walls of the copper cavity. That would be like moving a car forward by just banging against the windshield.....https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-says-it-works-anyway/?utm_term=.af362177e364



Consider you are in a small shed and you run up and jump onto a side ... can it fall over (ie move?) .. you bet. Why? Because Newton's laws require it to do so. Just because you don't have things coming out the the system does not mean that you cannot get a system to move in its environment.

I don't see NASA claiming that their experimental engine is violating any current physical law.
 

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I doubt it ... once a law is established its considered golden....the requirement to disprove it is upon the party claiming that the law is no longer valid.

But the EM drive doesn't work that way. Its thrust seems to come from the impact of photons on the walls of the copper cavity. That would be like moving a car forward by just banging against the windshield.....https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-says-it-works-anyway/?utm_term=.af362177e364



Consider you are in a small shed and you run up and jump onto a side ... can it fall over (ie move?) .. you bet. Why? Because Newton's laws require it to do so. Just because you don't have things coming out the the system does not mean that you cannot get a system to move in its environment.

I don't see NASA claiming that their experimental engine is violating any current physical law.

maybe, but aren't also some physicists attempting to prove that the speed of light is actually in fact a variable and that it's current speed is probably a reduction of it's prior top speed? which thereby reinforces einsteins cosmological constant "delta"?

sorry I watch a lot of scientific documentaries. I also watch a lot of history stuff too lately. ( the signs of history repeat BTW are staggering)
 
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maybe, but aren't also some physicists attempting to prove that the speed of light is actually in fact a variable and that it's current speed is probably a reduction of it's prior top speed? which thereby reinforces einsteins cosmological constant "delta"?

sorry I watch a lot of scientific documentaries. I also watch a lot of history stuff too lately. ( the signs of history repeat BTW are staggering)

Since time itself is variable [even astronauts proved that] ... they may be successful.

I recall one traffic ticket case (I was "caught" by LIDAR ~ laser~light speed measuring device) and the cop testified he measured my vehicle speed at a perpendicular angle.

I did not argue with he cop .. but proved to the court that even if I was going 1000 MPH the LIDAR unit would have provided a result of 0 MPH in the case of measuring a moving vehicle from a 90 degree angle.

The judge would not allow me to testify as an expert due to my lack of experience with lasers but he did allow me to testify and gave consideration to my scientific knowledge and academic qualifications. (it would have been sweet to have been a qualified expert on LIDAR devices).

I went through the US Patent that was issued for the device, noted errors related to the speed of light noted in the patent. Discussed the properties of light. And then discussed all the possible errors associated with taking measurements with the device.

At the end, I motioned to strike the testimony of the cop related to the measurement he made and the judge agreed. A motion to acquit soon followed and was granted w/o much fanfare.

Probably the fifth or sixth favorite and fun judicial case (out of hundreds) I was a party to. I should have ordered transcripts of that one.


estimates:
# of tickets gotten for speeding via a LIDAR device reading: 7
# of convictions : 0
# of times I plead guilty or plead a charge out : 0

I'm 7-0 for these speeding cases !

I completely ignore speed limits in my state....where 99.9% of SMDs are LIDAR (due to a state law banning radar handheld devices)
 
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I did not encourage any to do anything. To clarify....don't do what I do in regards to this thread, unless you are willing to pay a small fine.

And I think everyone speeds ...

I've seen the lidar devices, from an engineering standpoint, they make me wonder the effective programming of the device, since it uses an IR spread through a convex lens... how does it differentiate between stable items in the target area and moving? especially if the officer trails the target?
 

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I've seen the lidar devices, from an engineering standpoint, they make me wonder the effective programming of the device, since it uses an IR spread through a convex lens... how does it differentiate between stable items in the target area and moving? especially if the officer trails the target?

Had a LEO friend (later became Chief) show me many years ago how he could get any speed indicated on a hand held radar gun simply by sweeping the devise through the target.
 

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Cosine error is always slower. In the limit, perpendicular at 90°, it is 0.

Yup...strange how cops using lidar still measure at 90 degree angles (or close to) and still get measurements showing people are speeding.

And to note: # of calibration certificates for any speed measuring device that was admitted into evidence in any of my speed related cases: zero.
 

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Yup...strange how cops using lidar still measure at 90 degree angles (or close to) and still get measurements showing people are speeding.

And to note: # of calibration certificates for any speed measuring device that was admitted into evidence in any of my speed related cases: zero.

The calibration certificates are usually not even up to proper inspection, or past the inspection date..
Very easy cases to win, but an old man like me always does the speed limit.. LOL

David, do u ever sleep?

CCJ
 

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Liberals tried this last session and it was dead before it got to committee. I expect the same this coming session. Nothing but a filing to show her

Preemption law RSMo 21.750 http://www.moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/stathtml/02100007501.html prohibits any such law(s).

St. Louis alderman Lyda Krewson (D-28th Ward) https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/departments/aldermen/ward-28/, mostly north of Forest Park. Delmar Blvd is the northern boundary, K. Highway is the eastern boundary, and S/N Skinker is essentially the western boundary. That part of STL is infested with liberals and fairly good police coverage...go figure.
 
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