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Second Amendment Sanctuaries: Rhetoric vs. Reality

solus

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from 2016...first article regard 2a sanctuary i found...
On my first call the hosts were overwhelmingly in favor of making Redding, CA, a Second Amendment Sanctuary City. They so liked the idea, they wanted to make all of Shasta County a Second Amendment Sanctuary County. We all had a great time and lots of ideas were explored. When I came back on with the sheriff, it was a much different call.

Second Amendment Sanctuary Cities aren’t going to work if law enforcement arrests everyone exercising constitutional rights that the “sanctuary” is supposed to protect. So law enforcement has to guarantee that no one will be arrested for only keeping and bearing arms in the sanctuary zone, otherwise it isn’t a sanctuary zone. So I asked the sheriff about this. He said his job was to enforce all the laws of California. I asked how he could enforce laws on owning and carrying guns that were in direct violation of the Second Amendment? He said those laws aren’t unconstitutional until so ruled by a court.

so i would believe the concept is a bloody 420 induced pipe dream...

by the way... as a side discussion on the oath of office...
quote:
When the question is raised as to the specific “Oath of Office of Sheriff” taken in each of the 47 states that have traditional Offices/Departments of Sheriff, our Association’s research of individual state constitutions and state statutes reveals that the “oath of office” taken by an elected sheriff in 43 states is the same oath used by all other state and local public officials, including other members of the executive, judicial and legislative branches of government. In short, an individual sheriff’s “oath of office” does not contain any additional or unique language conferring special duties, powers or responsibilities on any Office of Sheriff. As result, an individual sheriff’s oath of office is the same or identical oath of office conferred on and taken by all of these other public local, county and state officials. unquote

 

FreedomVA

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2A Sanctuary city are like the Butt horsepower you get after slapping on a overprice exhaust fart cans without modifications to the engine.
 

color of law

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The county coroner is usually more powerful than the sheriff. The sheriff can investigate a death all he wants, but until the coroner says what the cause of death is the sheriff's investigation doesn't carry much weight.
If the dead guy is found in a straight jacket with three shots to the back of the head and the revolver is in his hand inside the straight jacket and the coroner rules it a suicide, it's a suicide.
 

2a4all

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Perhaps not, but there are possible workarounds to these draconian proposals, such as:
Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins praised the Board of Supervisors for passing a Second Amendment sanctuary provision.
"I remain very optimistic that our General Assembly will not pass the proposed bills. Obviously, if passed, there are many of us willing to challenge these laws through the courts. In addition, if necessary, I plan to properly screen and deputize thousands of our law-abiding citizens to protect their constitutional right to own firearms," Jenkins added.
 

Firearms Iinstuctor

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Mainly these are feel good resolutions.

Once the state passes the law, law enforcement can enforce it or not enforce at their will.

What one sheriff does can change at the next election.

Prosecuting the right people is always an option once the law is passed.

It is better to not have the law passed in the first place.
 

color of law

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Perhaps not, but there are possible workarounds to these draconian proposals, such as:
Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins praised the Board of Supervisors for passing a Second Amendment sanctuary provision.
"I remain very optimistic that our General Assembly will not pass the proposed bills. Obviously, if passed, there are many of us willing to challenge these laws through the courts. In addition, if necessary, I plan to properly screen and deputize thousands of our law-abiding citizens to protect their constitutional right to own firearms," Jenkins added.
Do I get a badge?
 

Doug_Nightmare

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Do you want a badge? We’ve been through that here before.

I think Stuart wants a Senior’s Protective Service First Class badge.
 
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