Romney's father an illegal?

[beebobby]

Romney's father born in Mexico and came to the US illegally.
http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...o-reveals-candidates-heritage-south-of-border

 

[thebigsd]

Oh no, not another birther debate....

 

[ManInBlack]

. . .

Where did it say that his father came to the U.S. illegally? You are aware that the father became governor of Michigan, right? I find Romney repugnant, but c'mon, man.

 

[beebobby]

Until I see the grandparents citizenship papers (the real ones), I'm gonna consider Mitt an anchor baby.

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

Romney is not an American citizen because...because....because, his dad was not an American citizen.

 

[beebobby]

It seems that his grandparents left Utah before it was a state to avoid prosecution for polygamy. Mitt's father was born in Mexico and was brought back across the border by his parents when he was five. I don't know the circumstances of his grandparents re-entry into the US. Mitt's fathers citizenship was questioned when he ran for Pres., but those inquiries were dropped when he ended his presidential bid. Considering some of the recent statements by Romney on immigration reform, the irony is priceless!

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

It seems that his grandparents left Utah before it was a state to avoid prosecution for polygamy. Mitt's father was born in Mexico and was brought back across the border by his parents when he was five. I don't know the circumstances of his grandparents re-entry into the US. Mitt's fathers citizenship was questioned when he ran for Pres., but those inquiries were dropped when he ended his presidential bid. Considering some of the recent statements by Romney on immigration reform, the irony is priceless!

Such ironies make me chuckle. I like it when individuals take hard lines.

 

[beebobby]

It will be interesting to see how the birthers spin this. It is a pretty convoluted situation.

 

[davidmcbeth]

Romney's father born in Mexico and came to the US illegally.
http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...o-reveals-candidates-heritage-south-of-border

So what,, Obama was born outside the US and so was McCain .. nobody cares & the courts don't either

 

[ManInBlack]

It seems that his grandparents left Utah before it was a state to avoid prosecution for polygamy. Mitt's father was born in Mexico and was brought back across the border by his parents when he was five. I don't know the circumstances of his grandparents re-entry into the US. Mitt's fathers citizenship was questioned when he ran for Pres., but those inquiries were dropped when he ended his presidential bid. Considering some of the recent statements by Romney on immigration reform, the irony is priceless!

Sigh...

His grandparents never lost their American citizenship. The child of two American citizens is an American citizen regardless of where he is born ("natural-born" might be a different story).

Regardless, Mitt Romney was born in MICHIGAN, and there has never been any dispute about that. Even if his father had illegally crossed the border the day before, Mitt would be an American citizen. So, I must ask, why did you post this, and can you provide any reasonable justification for the wild suggestion you make in the thread title?

 

[beebobby]

If Romneys grandparents fled the US to avoid prosecution, wouldn't they forfit their citizenship?

 

[ManInBlack]

If Romneys grandparents fled the US to avoid prosecution, wouldn't they forfit their citizenship?

Care to cite any law that says that?

Regardless, it wouldn't have any effect on Mitt's status. He was, again, born in MICHIGAN.

 

[SovereignAxe]

Care to cite any law that says that?

Regardless, it wouldn't have any effect on Mitt's status. He was, again, born in MICHIGAN.

wasn't that part of the NDAA?

 

[ManInBlack]

wasn't that part of the NDAA?

The NDAA simply allows military detention to be used against American citizens "captured" on American soil aka "the homeland" aka "the battlefield."

 

[SovereignAxe]

oh ok. I thought another part of the act said they could revoke citizenship...but I can't remember for what reasons.

 

[KBCraig]

Sigh...

His grandparents never lost their American citizenship. The child of two American citizens is an American citizen regardless of where he is born ("natural-born" might be a different story).

Regardless, Mitt Romney was born in MICHIGAN, and there has never been any dispute about that. Even if his father had illegally crossed the border the day before, Mitt would be an American citizen. So, I must ask, why did you post this, and can you provide any reasonable justification for the wild suggestion you make in the thread title?

The argument being floated (it's not my argument, just so we're clear about that) is that someone born outside the U.S. is a natural-born citizen only if both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of birth. So, it matters to that particular theory if George Romney's parents were U.S. citizens.

 

[ManInBlack]

The argument being floated (it's not my argument, just so we're clear about that) is that someone born outside the U.S. is a natural-born citizen only if both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of birth. So, it matters to that particular theory if George Romney's parents were U.S. citizens.

Thanks for pointing that out for me. An interesting hypothesis, to say the least.

OK, let's assume for a minute that one or both of George Romney's parents did lose their citizenship somehow...a believer in such a theory would have to also believe that George Romney, who came to the United States as a young child, waited until he was at least 40 years old (the time of Mitt's birth) to become naturalized...

Occam's Razor doesn't lend much credence to this one, IMO.

 

[jammer]

The argument being floated (it's not my argument, just so we're clear about that) is that someone born outside the U.S. is a natural-born citizen only if both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of birth. So, it matters to that particular theory if George Romney's parents were U.S. citizens.

WRONG---WRONG, even if he was born to two us citizens, and they were outside the U.S. when the child was born, that child would not be a natural born citizen. The only way that child, could be a natural born citizen, is by being born on American soil, (like a U.S. military base or an American embassy, OR IN AMERICA PERIOD.) If he was born to two U.S. citizens not on AMERICAN SOIL, then he is a naturalized citizen, not a natural born citizen. Therefore not able to be president of the U.S.A. I rest my case...

 

[KBCraig]

WRONG---WRONG

Did you miss this part?

The argument being floated (it's not my argument, just so we're clear about that)

I accurately summarized the theory that has been advanced by others. If you have an argument with them, please take it to them.

Personally, I believe you're both wrong.

 

[Daylen]

If Romneys grandparents fled the US to avoid prosecution, wouldn't they forfit their citizenship?

No.