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RoisinDubh wrote:
RoisinDubh wrote:
Very well.. welcome to both OCDO and VCDL.
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Put your money where your mouth is for the VCDL
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pourshot
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Have any of you thought of 'adopting' a gun store?
Go to the VCDL web page, print off and application, make copies, buy a display, put it in the gun store, and keep it stocked.
Are the employees at your local gun store members?
Have any of you thought of 'adopting' a gun store?
Go to the VCDL web page, print off and application, make copies, buy a display, put it in the gun store, and keep it stocked.
Are the employees at your local gun store members?
pourshot
Campaign Veteran
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Grapeshot wrote:
We have thought of that, and actually have been gathering material for a loop for a couple of years. The issue is cost.
Example: F'burg - Table is donated by the promoter (I think table cost is $55). 1 Power drop at the Expo Center would cost $155. And that means 6 memberships are required just to pay for the drop. (edited to add
and that is just EPO costs. The promoter is adding nothing at that price.
Laptops would not last all day
and show coordinators would not want to lug batteries around based on the weight alone.
I just stand in front of the table and bark. It gets results. One Richmond show we got 76 alert signups in 3.5 hours (Then my voice gave out) and at the last Fredericks burg show we got 18 members the first shift (more than the total of the previous 3 shows).
I have been pushing setting up a table at some of the larger stores (Gander Mountain, Green Top, etc) as well as changing our presentation to show we include protecting hunting rights, ranges, ammo selection, and more.
Grapeshot wrote:
We have thought of that, and actually have been gathering material for a loop for a couple of years. The issue is cost.
Example: F'burg - Table is donated by the promoter (I think table cost is $55). 1 Power drop at the Expo Center would cost $155. And that means 6 memberships are required just to pay for the drop. (edited to add
and that is just EPO costs. The promoter is adding nothing at that price.Laptops would not last all day
and show coordinators would not want to lug batteries around based on the weight alone.
I just stand in front of the table and bark. It gets results. One Richmond show we got 76 alert signups in 3.5 hours (Then my voice gave out) and at the last Fredericks burg show we got 18 members the first shift (more than the total of the previous 3 shows).
I have been pushing setting up a table at some of the larger stores (Gander Mountain, Green Top, etc) as well as changing our presentation to show we include protecting hunting rights, ranges, ammo selection, and more.
Reverend73
Founder's Club Member
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What if we set up with local gunshops to enter anyone that buys a new gun with a 1 year membership in the VCDL. Maybe VCDL could set up a fund where when the gunshop or new gun owner sends in their application, the money is deducted from this fund? The activist members would of course have to donate to this fund, but something like this would increase membership numbers significantly in a short time. I used to work at A&P arms in VaBeach, and while I can't speak for them, I feel fairly confident they would agree to something like this. Heck all they'd really have to do is once the gun purchase is complete, they give the new owner a specially printed/stamped membership application that they then fill out and mail in. Pretty simple, we'd just have to fund it. Thoughts?
What if we set up with local gunshops to enter anyone that buys a new gun with a 1 year membership in the VCDL. Maybe VCDL could set up a fund where when the gunshop or new gun owner sends in their application, the money is deducted from this fund? The activist members would of course have to donate to this fund, but something like this would increase membership numbers significantly in a short time. I used to work at A&P arms in VaBeach, and while I can't speak for them, I feel fairly confident they would agree to something like this. Heck all they'd really have to do is once the gun purchase is complete, they give the new owner a specially printed/stamped membership application that they then fill out and mail in. Pretty simple, we'd just have to fund it. Thoughts?
pourshot
Campaign Veteran
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Reverend73 wrote:
If membership is free (and at $25 it almost is now) it would have no respect.
Would be better to get them signed up for the alert. Now, if you wanted to put a VCDL Green Card in every gun case, that might have some value and costs a bunch less...
For those who are talking about free or reduced price memberships...
4 to 6 issues of the defender. Renewal notice (up to 2) and replay to renewal (with membership card). You are looking at about $10 spent on each membership. And that does not include the VA-Alert costs and postcard costs for the occasionalspecial mailings to members....
Reverend73 wrote:
If membership is free (and at $25 it almost is now) it would have no respect.
Would be better to get them signed up for the alert. Now, if you wanted to put a VCDL Green Card in every gun case, that might have some value and costs a bunch less...
For those who are talking about free or reduced price memberships...
4 to 6 issues of the defender. Renewal notice (up to 2) and replay to renewal (with membership card). You are looking at about $10 spent on each membership. And that does not include the VA-Alert costs and postcard costs for the occasionalspecial mailings to members....
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Sent this email to Philip -
A lot of things are being discussed on OCDO regarding recruitment for VCDL. http://tinyurl.com/5z75p7
My additional suggestions:
Family memberships: Husband & wife $40.00 = 2 memberships butcommon Va-Alert & Defender + minor children added for small additional - $10.00? Object is to get more involved and numbers up.
College student or active miltary discount - or supplemented as OCDO thread suggests.
Myreal exciting thought (for me at least) is corporate sponsers - would love to approach a bank and see a Friend of VCDL window sticker instead of the No Guns signs!
Yata hey
Sent this email to Philip -
A lot of things are being discussed on OCDO regarding recruitment for VCDL. http://tinyurl.com/5z75p7
My additional suggestions:
Family memberships: Husband & wife $40.00 = 2 memberships butcommon Va-Alert & Defender + minor children added for small additional - $10.00? Object is to get more involved and numbers up.
College student or active miltary discount - or supplemented as OCDO thread suggests.
Myreal exciting thought (for me at least) is corporate sponsers - would love to approach a bank and see a Friend of VCDL window sticker instead of the No Guns signs!
Yata hey
ProShooter
Regular Member
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Phil and I spoke a few months ago about putting a VCDL application in the student manual we give to all of our students. I'm still willing to do that if the VCDL can supply me with the apps. With the amount of students we put through classes each month, I'm sure we can get a few memberships out of it.
Phil and I spoke a few months ago about putting a VCDL application in the student manual we give to all of our students. I'm still willing to do that if the VCDL can supply me with the apps. With the amount of students we put through classes each month, I'm sure we can get a few memberships out of it.
pourshot
Campaign Veteran
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ProShooter wrote:
ProShooter wrote:
I had a class last month and of the 7 students, 5 joined!:celebrate
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ProShooter wrote:
Yata hey
ProShooter wrote:
You do not need Philip's approval to pass out applications and endorse/promote VCDL. Easy enough to just do it. Next time you are at a gun show just pick up a couple from the VCDL table and run your own copies.
Yata hey
rlh2005
Founder's Club Member
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ProShooter wrote:
ProShooter wrote:
Send a note to the Richmond (Central VA) show coordinator. She may be able to hook you up with applications.
ProShooter
Regular Member
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rlh2005 wrote:
rlh2005 wrote:
Phil tried to drop some off for me one day but the drop off location was closed. I just need to pick up a stack when I think about it next.
Glock27Bill
Regular Member
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RoisinDubh wrote:
If you know any students who would benefit from membership, I'll pay for 4 and renew them while they're still in school.
ETA: That applies to you, too, NOVA. As stated before, let's try to get them down to Lobby Day. I'll drive, got room for 3 others comfortable, maybe 4 if they're close friends (4 door pickup).
RoisinDubh wrote:
If you know any students who would benefit from membership, I'll pay for 4 and renew them while they're still in school.
ETA: That applies to you, too, NOVA. As stated before, let's try to get them down to Lobby Day. I'll drive, got room for 3 others comfortable, maybe 4 if they're close friends (4 door pickup).
smccomas
Regular Member
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Think I have got to people to join VCDL I know I have 1 for sure.
Think I have got to people to join VCDL I know I have 1 for sure.
VCDL President
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nova wrote:
nova wrote:
I just boxed up a bunch and will UPS them to you on Monday. Time has slipped by and I simply never had a chance to hook up with you, Jim.
Glock27Bill
Regular Member
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nova wrote:
Don't argue with Phil, Jim.
Sheeez.
nova wrote:
You must have me confused with another person.I'm Dave.
Don't argue with Phil, Jim.
Sheeez.
VCDL President
Centurion
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nova wrote:
Hey - wait a minute - are you arguing with me?
nova wrote:
I hit the wrong "quote" button, sorry. I do that from time to time. That was for proshooter.You must have me confused with another person.I'm Dave.
Hey - wait a minute - are you arguing with me?
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VCDL President wrote:
Haha @ G27Bill
VCDL President wrote:
oh..no problem. Was I arguing? I didn't know I was!:lol:nova wrote:I hit the wrong "quote" button, sorry. I do that from time to time. That was for proshooter.You must have me confused with another person.I'm Dave.
Hey - wait a minute - are you arguing with me?
Haha @ G27Bill