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Problems in carrying in my church

solus

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If a Church of Latter Day Saints’ house of worship or Temple, etc., then sign or no sign, Church doctrine/policy[ies] forbid firearms in their places of worship.
 

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Chief, same mentality i mentioned previously...your religious band of local yokels ‘providing armed security’ meeting KY security guard statutes and who is providing liability and guidance?
 

Ghost1958

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I'm on the security force at my church.

There is no no gun policy at our church , and many of the congregation carry male and female.

There are no state wide requirements to be a security guard in ky.

At any rate most church security teams in my area are volunteer , receiving no pay so if their were any reqirements they would not apply.
 

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Ok, I’ll dabble my toes in the water. A topic I can resemble.

I’m very close to this position, tho not on any formal security team.

As weather permits, I wear a sport coat or vest. Some of my vests may allow a short bit of barrel to poke out the bottom. No one has said anything.

In the summer I do the Hawaiian shirt untucked thing. I’m an old white guy, so maybe I can get away with that? Is that racist? I do see nearly all young men have button down shirts untucked, so concealing under that should not really be an issue, or out of place, in my opinion.

While I would not be opposed to open carry in church, I also don’t want it to be a distraction, and I think it would be for many of those that noticed. There are other places that I conceal at, at times, as the situation seems appropriate. (To me) I have been going to city council meetings lately, a few there know I OC, and there is no law against it there, but I choose to conceal. I open carry in the same building to pay my water bill.

I believe our church does have some kind of informal security team, tho I’m not on it. I personally wouldn’t be too thrilled about the armband idea, if I was concealed in that position. I have not inquired about joining, and no one has mentioned anything about me carrying, in almost 4 years attending. After church we shop at Walmart and see many church members there, where I often open carry. I don’t usually tuck in an Hawaiian shirt, but I might lose the vest or jacket, depending on weather. This in a small town of about 4000.

My personal opinion is that if you are OC and minding your own business, most people don’t notice as they are too involved in their phone or kids. A church, at least ours might be a little different as you can’t walk two feet without someone shaking your hand.

I guess my advice would be to bite the bucket and conceal until you have attended a little while and have established some relationships. After that, reassess. If my church were to put up no gun signs I would find some place else to attend. People get shot in GFZs, and places of worship seem to have become a target lately.

I guess that was more than a dabble. This is a topic of quite a bit of interest to me.
I agree. Conceal in church. I'll find a fat arse shirt to cover it up.
 

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Hi friends. I am still around, carrying by trusty EAA 38sp/ 357 Mag pistol. Planning to buy a handgun after all these years. I began to attend church after holding chapel services for 4.5 years in a nursing home. The new director was hostile to gospel preaching. I open carried in church in the winter of 2018, but by default my gun was covered up by my winter jacket. Come summer everyone could see my gun. No one said anything for a while till one day a middle aged lady who was ushering said do you carry in church? I said yes. She said are you a cop? I said no. She said oh so you like to carry gun. I nodded. Two weeks later I got a call from a close friend of mine, who is not always in church because of his business, who told me that he got a call from the pastor because people were calling him about concerns that I was OCing a gun in church. Now this friend was high up in Homeland security and was a federal agent and in the military, who said that I needed to conceal my pistol because folks were getting concerned. He carries concealed in church and he has the privilege to carry anywhere. I told him that I did not have the means to hide, cloak my pistol in the summer. He said folks don't know me and that they are afraid. I don't blame them. I am a first generation American in my family even though my dad attended the U of M from 1949 to 1952 for his post doctorate. That's how I ended up here. I found some over sized T shirt to help me conceal, but I have not gone to church for 2 weeks lest that lady asks me if I am still carrying under my shirt. So friends, That's my latest challenge. I hope all of you are well. I am still sad about Grape Shot passing away and Don't know how MKE Gal is doing and Protias and Nightmare.
I went to church last weekend and put a spring jacket because it was cold. Voila! no one said a peep or acted up. AAH! It's just psychology!
 

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I went to church last weekend and put a spring jacket because it was cold. Voila! no one said a peep or acted up. AAH! It's just psychology!
Sorry Law Abider, it not psychology at all; it’s called you capitulated and CONCEALED!

This church is located at the edge of a university campus. But I believe only one person may be responsible for the incident: The church greeter.
As previously stated...the greeter’s main purpose isn’t to discern whom may enter the house of worship...

As for the concept your choice of churches “being on the edge of a university” [???] doesn’t mean a thing any more than your church, during the rest of the week functions as a private K > 12 school !
 

Doug_Nightmare

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Amusing, the walleyed dumb bass lecturing on congregational practice.

I usually arrive well before the Ushers whose function it is to welcome, provide the bulletin Order of Service, and seat the arriving worshipers. I enjoy the job.

Milady Wife are five long days away from home on our trikes, with friends (unchurched) for the weekend, then pedaling five days home.

Ready for winter.
 
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solus

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Good health takes huge discipline, of which Solus ipse is clearly incapable, and effort.
Thanks dougie, again yet another exemplary contribution to the OCDO’s forum!

Further, your exhibited behaviour is once again being shown to be wanting, isn’t it!

Oh speaking of discipline like you are, you might explore modalities which can improve your mental health so you can over come or at least begin to control your impulsiveness to attempt demean, degrade, and bully others.
 

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I went to church last weekend and put a spring jacket because it was cold. Voila! no one said a peep or acted up. AAH! It's just psychology!
I open carry nearly everywhere EXCEPT church. It’s the one exception I make to a place where I could legally OC. I don’t have a problem with it. I would not have a problem if someone did OC there either.

I do open carry my Sword, but my firearm is concealed.
 
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