Practice rounds

[Metal_Monkey]

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I often use cci blazer brass in .45 for practice or just having fun. I get them at wall mart for 15 bucks per 50 rounds, but they don't sell them by the case. Anyone know who has a better deal by the case? Or at least per 50? Even wolf ammo and it cheapest with steel cases is still 20 bucks everywhere else lol

 

[nofoa]

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Reload :monkey

 

[just_a_car]

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Does $16.56 per box of 50, shipped to your door, work?

Ammoman.com has $149 for a tin can of 450 Wolf steel-case, shipped to your door.

 

[David.Car]

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As much as I hate saying it Wally World for the Blazer or WWB is usually your best bet... Sometimes you can find better online, but usually after shipping it turns out to be the same or only a dollar better or so.

Best deals to be had are getting lucky buys on online auctions, but that takes more time. I usually only do that for my serious ammo (Gold Dot at half of the price of stores in local area is prime example)

 

[d0od]

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Walmart has Winchester White box 100 pack for the .45 I think it is $28. I get that for my 9mm, 100 box for $19. I have yet to find anything cheaper than that (other than re-load).

 

[amlevin]

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nofoa wrote:

Reload :monkey

A large +1 on this.

Go to a garage sale or gun show and buy a good used setup for around $100 or less. (Lee Progressive or RCBS, Lyman single stage).

Your cost per practice round will drop to about half of what you will pay for CHEAP ammo. In reality your reloads will be more like premium ammo that sells for far more than Blazer and WWB. This means you can shoot GOOD ammo for an even larger savings.

I load my practice 9mm in batches of 3,000 using a Dillon 650. takes a couple of afternoons or a total of about 10 hours. Cost per round is $0.105 using nice clean burning powder and jacketed bullets.

I reload the same brass at least 10 times and am always picking up once fired brass at the range that is left by "non-reloaders".

Savings are similar for all other calibers.

 

[Trigger Dr]

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www.surplusammo.com

 

[Bill Starks]

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Both Walmart & Joes has the Remington UMC 230gr, 250 round box for about $80 which equals about $16 for 50 rounds.

 

[Bill Starks]

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Trigger Dr wrote:

http://www.surplusammo.com

dead link

 

[Metal_Monkey]

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amlevin wrote:

nofoa wrote:

Reload :monkey

A large +1 on this.

Go to a garage sale or gun show and buy a good used setup for around $100 or less. (Lee Progressive or RCBS, Lyman single stage).

Your cost per practice round will drop to about half of what you will pay for CHEAP ammo. In reality your reloads will be more like premium ammo that sells for far more than Blazer and WWB. This means you can shoot GOOD ammo for an even larger savings.

I load my practice 9mm in batches of 3,000 using a Dillon 650. takes a couple of afternoons or a total of about 10 hours. Cost per round is $0.105 using nice clean burning powder and jacketed bullets.

I reload the same brass at least 10 times and am always picking up once fired brass at the range that is left by "non-reloaders".

Savings are similar for all other calibers.

I need to look into reloading, but in the ammount I shoot could be just as expensive and/ortime consuming? I shoot about 200 rounds every sunday when I can. Would go more if I could :XI don't know much about reloading so it does interest me.

 

[Bear 45/70]

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ADillon 650 will do 200 rounds in less than an half an hour, they say 500 to 800 rounds per hour. The time issue doesn't fly.

 

[Cougar125]

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amlevin wrote:

A large +1 on this.

Go to a garage sale or gun show and buy a good used setup for around $100 or less. (Lee Progressive or RCBS, Lyman single stage).

Your cost per practice round will drop to about half of what you will pay for CHEAP ammo. In reality your reloads will be more like premium ammo that sells for far more than Blazer and WWB. This means you can shoot GOOD ammo for an even larger savings.

I load my practice 9mm in batches of 3,000 using a Dillon 650. takes a couple of afternoons or a total of about 10 hours. Cost per round is $0.105 using nice clean burning powder and jacketed bullets.

I reload the same brass at least 10 times and am always picking up once fired brass at the range that is left by "non-reloaders".

Savings are similar for all other calibers.

I pick up brass everywhere I go. Thats just how I was raised. I'm needing to get a setup for reloading. As of right now I have roughly 1200 empty brass that I need to do something with.

 

[jchen012]

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I have ordered from outdoormarksman.com. They are located in Salem, OR and therefore the shipping is cheap. They have sales from time to time.

 

[amlevin]

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Bear 45/70 wrote:

ADillon 650 will do 200 rounds in less than an half an hour, they say 500 to 800 rounds per hour. The time issue doesn't fly.

If you can get someone to help you by loading primer tubes, adding cases to the case feeder, adding powder to the measure, and spelling you off by pulling the handle one can actually as many as 1800 rounds per hour, one bullet every 2 seconds. That's a lot of ammo but don't expect to keep up that rate. Your bound to run out of brass, bullets, powder and primers eventually. Not to mention cramps in your arm.

One will need about $1,000 for an XL-650 and case feeder (including dies, shell plate, etc.) but if you shoot a lot of one caliber it pays for itself in a very short time. Mine was "paid off" about a year after I bought it and the rest is now "profit".

 

[Bear 45/70]

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amlevin wrote:

Bear 45/70 wrote:

ADillon 650 will do 200 rounds in less than an half an hour, they say 500 to 800 rounds per hour. The time issue doesn't fly.

If you can get someone to help you by loading primer tubes, adding cases to the case feeder, adding powder to the measure, and spelling you off by pulling the handle one can actually as many as 1800 rounds per hour, one bullet every 2 seconds. That's a lot of ammo but don't expect to keep up that rate. Your bound to run out of brass, bullets, powder and primers eventually. Not to mention cramps in your arm.

There is an hydraulic system available to pull the handle for you, then all you have to do is keep the hoppers full. I've seen them for my MEC shot shell loaders.

 

[dlnwoody]

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Everyone is talking about reloading to save money. Can someone please pm me with every thing needed to reload. I am tired of paying high prices for ammo. I need something for rifle, handgun, and shotgun. Thanks for any info.

 

[Bear 45/70]

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dlnwoody wrote:

Everyone is talking about reloading to save money. Can someone please pm me with every thing needed to reload. I am tired of paying high prices for ammo. I need something for rifle, handgun, and shotgun. Thanks for any info.

Lee makes several starter kits available. then all you will need is powder, primers, bullets and dies for whatever calibers you plan on reloading for.

http://www.leeprecision.com/ or

http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi

Just scroll down to kits and take your pick. Available at Sportmans Warehouse, othe sporting goods storesor from Lee direct.

 

[dlnwoody]

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Bear,

Do you buy your bullets or make them.

 

[Bear 45/70]

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dlnwoody wrote:

Bear,

Do you buy your bullets or make them.

Both. I buy jacketed bullets for some of my high velocity calibers (223, 22-250, 308, etc).I also buy some of my hard cast lead bullets because I am looking for a specific alloy of the lead for bullet hardness for hunting (41 magnum, 44 Magnum and 45/70). For practice rounds I just use wheel weights or whatever scrap lead I can find. I also make my own shotgun slugs.

 

[Metal_Monkey]

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Bear 45/70 wrote:

ADillon 650 will do 200 rounds in less than an half an hour, they say 500 to 800 rounds per hour. The time issue doesn't fly.

But in order to make that much that fast isn't cheap. Sure it takes a half hour, but im not arming a small country.