Kryteon
Regular Member
1: you mentioned "roving wire taps" that is (just by the numbers) is one area it has effected my life. I'd like to add that I know this implies so much in as " well why would you care, if you have nothing to hide" I dont, and intend to keep it that way. Its not the point of hiding anything. It is that I feel this is any example you can see and touch of how Gov. Encroches on your life. I will list examles if needed?
2: am I willing to accept responsability? Yes I am. I feel an obligation to do so. I also feel the same about big government taking away civil protectors like Habeous Corpus. (Wich was not set to "sunset" yet...I.e. still by by..)
3: first. Its not just islamic extreamists......load of poo.....secondly I would help to pas legislation barring extremist from entering the U.S. entirerly. And the people that are know to be "homegrown" i'd alreadry have recived promission from a Judge to survielle them. Do some reserch on these "terror plots" that the F.B.I. thworted....by entrapment ( self omitted ) or why eyewitness's have come forth to testify that the witnessed a State Dartment Official ushering this bomber threw security.... these witnesses are lawers...they understand the ramifications of lying under oath and perjuring a police statment ect... or how the Portland Or. X-mas tree bomber was supplied the bomb and detination device....the F.B.I. statment stated that exactly.....
So where is your leg to stand on now? Don't get me wrong....I like pirates
And I hope that you know that this only comes from a well intentiond place. We are all gentelmen here. So pleas don't take any of this personal either.
1. Having nothing to hide is not the issue, that's why I didn't mention it. You did. It's widely known that terrorists switch cell phones often. The Patriot Act allows roving wire taps under very stringent conditions.
2. By personal responsibility for the consequences, I was talking about personal responsibility for innocent lives lost in a terror attack because the Patriot Act was repealed. It's small comfort to the families of the victims that their phones aren't being tapped but they're loved ones are dead.
3. I said Islamic extremists and OTHER terrorists. Not just Jhadists. I'll see your antecdotes and raise you two more. If we play the game of anecdotal one-upmanship we'll never get anywhere. While I agree with some of your ideas for stopping terror attacks on the U.S. they leave way to many holes and gaps in our defenses.
Still standing on both legs. Thanks for asking!
I have a thick skin. I don't take anything written on the Internet personally. The one who gets personal first.... loses.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Kryteon