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[Aaron1124]

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I wonder what the profits of major businesses are going to look like the month leading up to December, 2012.

 

[Metalhead47]

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amzbrady wrote:

How many millions of years have we been coming out of the ice age? And theres only a few places left to melt.

Actually over the last 5 million years or so the ice had come and gone like a half a dozen times. Having icecaps at all is really weird, geologically speaking... for most of the planet's history there were no ice caps. Then there was the time the entire planet was an iceball.

The only environmental constant is that it is constantly changing.

And global warming... you really want to take the word of "those people" on what the weather's going to be like in 100 years when they can't even tell us, with any real accuracy, what the weather's going to be like next month??:uhoh:

 

[oneeyeross]

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Well, I suspect the food companies ("supermarket to the world" etc) will be doing really, really, great.

Hmm....ammo, tents, sleeping bags kine stuff sell real good, but long term bonds & stuff maybe not so much.

 

[skiingislife725]

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Metalhead47 wrote:

what the weather's going to be like in 100 years when they can't even tell us, with any real accuracy, what the weather's going to be like next month??:uhoh:

Weather is not climate.

 

[amzbrady]

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So where is the safest place supposed to be, I havent heard how the end is coming? Go to the mountains and hope it's not the suns radiation, go low and hope it's not flooding, go to the midwest and hope its not the children of the corn, caves and hope it's not earthqaukes, big cities and sink holes?

 

[Metalhead47]

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skiingislife725 wrote:

Metalhead47 wrote:

what the weather's going to be like in 100 years when they can't even tell us, with any real accuracy, what the weather's going to be like next month??:uhoh:

Weather is not climate.

Yeah. They can't even figure weather out, you wanna take their word on climate?

 

[Metalhead47]

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amzbrady wrote:

So where is the safest place supposed to be, I havent heard how the end is coming? Go to the mountains and hope it's not the suns radiation, go low and hope it's not flooding, go to the midwest and hope its not the children of the corn, caves and hope it's not earthqaukes, big cities and sink holes?

Well according to the movie it's giant ships in Tibet built by the government :lol:

 

[amzbrady]

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Metalhead47 wrote:

amzbrady wrote:

So where is the safest place supposed to be, I havent heard how the end is coming? Go to the mountains and hope it's not the suns radiation, go low and hope it's not flooding, go to the midwest and hope its not the children of the corn, caves and hope it's not earthqaukes, big cities and sink holes?

Well according to the movie it's giant ships in Tibet built by the government :lol:

I was thinking of the other movie, I figured as long as I was in a limo when all hell broke loose, I'd be ok.

 

[SpyderTattoo]

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Well considering that the US government and "scientists" told us in the 1970's that we had a coming ice age...

It's all hype. It's about control.

 

[skiingislife725]

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Just like the media drops the ball on guns, they drop the ball on what scientists are studying. There is an absolute disconnect between scientific findings and what you read in the newspaper. For example, one study looking at how many peer-reviewed scientific journal articles (out of thousands) concluded that anthropogenic climate change was occurring and nearly 100% were in agreement that it was the case. However, in another study looking at newspaper articles, it was more like 50%. So, either the journalists are coming up with data from some secret science society...or they're pulling it out of their azz.

I'm not saying to believe me...but read the scientific journals for yourself before you come to some great theory on the matter.

 

[amzbrady]

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Maybe we should ask the Jahova Witnesses when Armegeddon is coming, last one they had was in 72, I imagine they are duefor another one soon.

 

[Metalhead47]

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skiingislife725 wrote:

Just like the media drops the ball on guns, they drop the ball on what scientists are studying. There is an absolute disconnect between scientific findings and what you read in the newspaper. For example, one study looking at how many peer-reviewed scientific journal articles (out of thousands) concluded that anthropogenic climate change was occurring and nearly 100% were in agreement that it was the case. However, in another study looking at newspaper articles, it was more like 50%. So, either the journalists are coming up with data from some secret science society...or they're pulling it out of their azz.

I'm not saying to believe me...but read the scientific journals for yourself before you come to some great theory on the matter.

And there are many out there who would say that any dissent on the matter is being actively suppressed... that control thing Spyder mentioned....

 

[oneeyeross]

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For 2012, I think the real crisis will be crazies running around thinking the world is ending and being stupid.

Remember Y2K? The world would stop because of a computer glitch, money & banking would fail, electricity would stop working, the space time continuum would be disrupted and bubble gum wouldn't bubble....turned out to be much ado about nothing.

 

[antispam540]

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oneeyeross wrote:

For 2012, I think the real crisis will be crazies running around thinking the world is ending and being stupid.

Remember Y2K? The world would stop because of a computer glitch, money & banking would fail, electricity would stop working, the space time continuum would be disrupted and bubble gum wouldn't bubble....turned out to be much ado about nothing.

Well, it actually wasn't much ado about nothing - if there hadn't been the panic and hype, the programs wouldn't have been fixed, and things really would have been bad.

 

[oneeyeross]

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I was one of those mouse jockeys at the time....like I said, much ado about nothing.

 

[Tawnos]

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SpyderTattoo wrote:

Tawnos wrote:

OT: I like 9mm - I can carry 1 magazine that holds as many rounds as a single .45 mag, with comparable or superior performance, depending on the metrics used.

I have a Glock 30 (.45 ACP) that carries 10 + 1. I also have a Glock 21 (.45 ACP) that carries 13+1, and with 2 extra mags, that's 40 rounds of carried .45 ACP... Um, the capacity argument is void.

Also, to the other poster, with my .45 I don't need 3 shots to the chest (compared to your example of the 9mm), I only need one...

I carry an XD-9 that can carry 16+1, with an XDM, I could do 20+1. I don't have the space or desire to carry additional mags. If that's not enough, I'm sure as hell running to get out of there, not staying around to reload and keep shooting! I'd like to see a shot where 3 shots to the chest with a 9mm was ineffective, but the same shots with 45 would be fine. Same in reverse: a shot with a 45 that stops the target but 9mm would be ineffective. They'd be more rare than they were common, and there'd likely be a flip set of circumstances where the opposite happened, so I'm not too concerned.

And for whoever said (not going to look back to find it) "they can't predict weather, so why would I believe them on climate" or some tripe like that. Really? What you're saying is akin to saying "the doctor can't predict the day I'll die, so why would I believe him when he says smoking increases my chances of emphysema?" In statistics, a normal distribution with a 95% confidence rate for containing the population mean will always be tighter than one trying to predict for an individual. Why wouldn't it be the same with general (climate) versus individual (weather)?

 

[oneeyeross]

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plus or minus two standard deviations....

(gads, that takes me back longer ago than I care to remember...)

 

[skiingislife725]

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oneeyeross wrote:

plus or minus two standard deviations....

(gads, that takes me back longer ago than I care to remember...)

Then it was too long ago to remember it correctly.

 

[oneeyeross]

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The square root of the sum of the differences....and that's as far as I can get without looking it up.

Now, I still can remember Avagadro's number....but why I'll never know....

 

[JKelly]

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oneeyeross wrote:

For 2012, I think the real crisis will be crazies running around thinking the world is ending and being stupid.

Remember Y2K? The world would stop because of a computer glitch, money & banking would fail, electricity would stop working, the space time continuum would be disrupted and bubble gum wouldn't bubble....turned out to be much ado about nothing.

Damn! That means that I'll have to build up my supplies of fuel and ammo -- just in case those freaks on the west side of the Sierras get stupid again. When you combine a Mayan myth with the Obama chop, there will be a lot of lefties going loonie.:shock: