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Open Carry Idaho Report

Jeff Hayes

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wow, the MT environment has made you irritable...

let's recap...you wondered about looking at you or the GLOCK 1911 wanna be...

i pointed out it was the wanna be colt in reference to the fine linage of the firearm whose exemplarary attributes are copied today by lesser quality manufacturers, w/o success!

you responded Remington 1911

i just provided a reference of who the manufactuer actually was & one small example why the firearm was chosen for our armed services...

is history isn't important, all history,i guess we should quit fussing over the true meaning of the founding fathers documents and you should believe what your told about a lot of things by todays leaders.

ipse
UMM its ID not MT.

Colt did not manufactuer, LOL, a single 1911 that I own.

exemplarary, LOL, hilarious especially when you are expressing your opinion about firearms.


My SSGT Marine son is issued a Beretta not a Colt.

Interesting, when and where did I mention history in the context you are referring to?
 

Grapeshot

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Moderate or opinionate Grapeshot doing both seems to me like you are not taking your own advice and taking it to PMs.
Moderation (a called decision) IS the opinion of the Moderator.

I respond publicly, as opposed to PMs, to such public criticisms/attacks and when someone just doesn't get it. That has the benefit of informing others.

Not sure why you have a bone in your teeth on this, but suggest you making too much of a mole hill.
 

solus

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UMM its ID not MT.
Colt did not manufactuer, LOL, a single 1911 that I own.

exemplarary, (sic) LOL, hilarious especially when you are expressing your opinion about firearms.
My SSGT Marine son is issued a Beretta not a Colt.
Interesting, when and where did I mention history in the context you are referring to?
i am glad you have finally gotten the entire point of my post...a 1911 by another name other than colt isn't a 1911!

and since history isnt your strong suit, i shant pass along why your armed forces enlisted son is carrying that particular firearm, suffice to say Beretta whined to congress ~ to buy American as they were losing the competition, so they passed legislation mandating it.

now untwitter your shorts and get over yourself...geez

ipse

added: and if my kin were carrying this PoS firearm into conflicts i would be extremely concerned:

quote: The Beretta M92 ​ranks at the bottom of all the firearms used by the U.S. Army and Air Force—but it'll take the Pentagon years to field a replacement.

...to replace the aging Beretta M92 handgun. First adopted in the 1980s, the U.S. Army's Berettas are beginning to wear out. The M92 is also a product of another time, and hasn't kept up with recent advances in pistol technology.

The first requirement is that the new handgun surpass the M92 in accuracy, reliability, ergonomics, durability, and maintainability. In a 2006 report on U.S. infantry weapon reliability, the M92 scored at the bottom compared to the M4 carbine, M16 rifle, and M249 squad automatic weapon. In every category, from handling to accuracy to maintainability, the M92 came in dead last—or tied for last. Twenty-six percent of soldiers polled reported their weapon jammed while shooting at the enemy. Forty-six percent reported they didn't have confidence in their pistol's reliability. unquote
http://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...my-air-force-closer-to-selecting-new-handgun/

and from 1913 to 1986 for 73 years COLT has been the sidearm carried and used by our service members while your precious Beretta you believe your kin carries can't even handle the task for half that time!

that Mr. Hayes is what the history lesson will teach ya!!
 
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Grapeshot

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--snipped--Beretta whined to congress ~ to buy American as they were losing the competition, so they passed legislation mandating it.
Having a plant/facility in the USA makes a firm American? Not in my book.
 

Firearms Iinstuctor

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iquote: The Beretta M92 ​ranks at the bottom of all the firearms used by the U.S. Army and Air Force—but it'll take the Pentagon years to field a replacement.

...to replace the aging Beretta M92 handgun. First adopted in the 1980s, the U.S. Army's Berettas are beginning to wear out. The M92 is also a product of another time, and hasn't kept up with recent advances in pistol technology.

The first requirement is that the new handgun surpass the M92 in accuracy, reliability, ergonomics, durability, and maintainability. In a 2006 report on U.S. infantry weapon reliability, the M92 scored at the bottom compared to the M4 carbine, M16 rifle, and M249 squad automatic weapon. In every category, from handling to accuracy to maintainability, the M92 came in dead last—or tied for last. Twenty-six percent of soldiers polled reported their weapon jammed while shooting at the enemy. Forty-six percent reported they didn't have confidence in their pistol's reliability. unquote
QUOTE]

Comparing any handgun to rifles and carbines and SAWs would most likely result in the same. handguns are inferior weapons to the others listed.
 

solus

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iquote: The Beretta M92 ​ranks at the bottom of all the firearms used by the U.S. Army and Air Force—but it'll take the Pentagon years to field a replacement.

...to replace the aging Beretta M92 handgun. First adopted in the 1980s, the U.S. Army's Berettas are beginning to wear out. The M92 is also a product of another time, and hasn't kept up with recent advances in pistol technology.

The first requirement is that the new handgun surpass the M92 in accuracy, reliability, ergonomics, durability, and maintainability. In a 2006 report on U.S. infantry weapon reliability, the M92 scored at the bottom compared to the M4 carbine, M16 rifle, and M249 squad automatic weapon. In every category, from handling to accuracy to maintainability, the M92 came in dead last—or tied for last. Twenty-six percent of soldiers polled reported their weapon jammed while shooting at the enemy. Forty-six percent reported they didn't have confidence in their pistol's reliability. unquote
QUOTE]

Comparing any handgun to rifles and carbines and SAWs would most likely result in the same. handguns are inferior weapons to the others listed.
Firearm Iinstructor, while you are absolutely correct, i however did not write the article, but they are comparing the military sidearm to other military contemporary firearms available regarding handling, accuracy, and maintainability as stated in the second part of the paragraph where i am afraid the commentary is truly applicable ~ quote In every category, from handling to accuracy to maintainability, the M92 came in dead last—or tied for last. Twenty-six percent of soldiers polled reported their weapon jammed while shooting at the enemy. Forty-six percent reported they didn't have confidence in their pistol's reliability. unquote

now, if a singular service members handgun's handling, maintainability and accuracy capabilities are dead last compared to other firearms available and carried by our service members, coupled with the stated loss of reliability confidence of almost half of the military members surveyed, our member's should just throw the firearm away and carry knives alone as at least it won't jam, handles well, fairly accurate, and very very easy to maintain!!

i am afraid, if my nearest and dearest kin were carrying this sidearm, i would be screaming bloody hell to congress to fix the problem...oh wait...they cannot decide to do their jobs so, eh...i would recommend my nearest and dearest get out after their current enlistment is over.

ipse
 

OC Freedom

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Continuing to open carry everywhere I go, only positive comments about my Personal Safety Device, if even mentioned at all. All in all very routine.
 

Va_Nemo

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You have probably heard it before. If not you need to hear it now. Then supplicate yourself in awe of JMB.

God made man
Sam Colt made him equal
John Moses Browning gave him perfection
Gaston Glock gave him plastic fantastic junk.

Remember it. Abide by it. You may disagree but that just makes you wrong.

Nemo :cool:
 

OC Freedom

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Meridian City Hall

Early this afternoon I went to the Meridian city hall to vote early and I open carried while there. The line was long, it took about 50 minutes from start to finish. Only had one person make a comment and it was about how they liked my Blackhawk holster. Folks did notice my Glock, but no one really seemed to care. I really do like this state.
 

OC Freedom

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I have been open carrying daily since spring and so far no negative comments. I have had plenty of positive firearm conversations because of open carry. Just another pleasant summer in Idaho.
 

carracer

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I have done so only occasionally. As I cannot open carry at work it is easy to slip on my Sneaky Pete concealed holster. I then do the same on weekends, just because it's easy to just slip on the belt. I guess I should get an easier holster than my Serpa paddle. I really like the retention feature, but just a hassle putting it over my belt. Perhaps a nice leather one with strap or thumb break would be easier. Of course I want it to look good and compliment my 1911. Any recommendations?
 

Grapeshot

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I have done so only occasionally. As I cannot open carry at work it is easy to slip on my Sneaky Pete concealed holster. I then do the same on weekends, just because it's easy to just slip on the belt. I guess I should get an easier holster than my Serpa paddle. I really like the retention feature, but just a hassle putting it over my belt. Perhaps a nice leather one with strap or thumb break would be easier. Of course I want it to look good and compliment my 1911. Any recommendations?
Safariland makes a great retension holster and has a quick detach system that is very popular. It is no problem to add leather to the outside of a kydex holster - I have done so with my EDC,

https://www.safariland.com/products...ems/mounting-systems/quick-attachment-systems
 

OC Freedom

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Boise Mall

I know the Boise Mall is a "Gun free zone", but I went ahead and open carried in the mall on Saturday. I had no contact from security or any comments at all from anybody. I walked the full length of the mall as for also shopping in the large anchor stores. I do not think the no gun policy has changed, I'm just confident the mall security isn't very observant.
 

carracer

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OC yesterday to Homedepot on Federal way and Albertsons at the micron exit. Only 1 funny look from an Albertson customer. No one seemed to notice otherwise.
 

OC Freedom

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Carracer, Are you going to the Western Idaho Fair? I have had zero issues open carrying at the fair and I am hoping this year will be the same. What I would like to try is open carrying at one of the free concerts. I would like to attend the "Huey Lewis and the News" concert on Wednesday, not sure I will be able to make it though.
 
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