Obama urges tighter background checks on gun buyers after Aurora massacre

[WalkingWolf]

Here's a question no one, absoultely 0% of people supporting gun laws will be able to answer..I promise.


Can you show me one (1) law, just one (1) law that has EVER prevented a criminal or convicted felon from buying or possessing a gun?




You cant, no one can, because there is no law that will ever be made that will stop someone from owning a firearm, why, because when you buy a stolen gun from a thug in their living room the government doesnt even know it happened. Criminals know they cant pass a background check, they know they will be denied a legal gun purchase, thats why they buy stolen guns, because there is no one to stop them from buying it. So how does having NICS or any other law stop it?

Some people seem to be so worried about a felon having a gun legally that they forget its already easier for them to buy a stolen gun, the only thing you are doing by allowing them to buy a gun legally is promoting the economy and if the gun is used in a crime you can trace it back to who bought it. The arguement about not allowing a criminal to legally buy a gun because they shouldnt have guns is asinine because you are looking completely past the fact that THEY ALREADY BUY GUNS.

Agreed, if it wasn't so pathetic it would be comical. The only thing the gun laws do is encourage more crime. I guess it does create more jobs though with more bureaucracy.

 

[Yance]

I wrote something recently called "Why gun control will never work" its on page 2 of this forum if you havent read it already, but at the end I wrote: "A Criminal will carry a gun if they want to carry a gun, a law abiding citizen will carry a gun if the government says he can"


In all reality a criminal enjoys the right to bear arms to its fullest extent, they carry a gun whenever they want without a license, they carry their gun however they want, and they can buy a gun without asking for permission or being forced to register them. Its the criminal who takes full advantage of the right to bear arms while the law abiding citizens have to ask permission to carry concealed and obtain a license to do so, they have to register their guns and ask to buy one, and can only carry their firearm where the law says they can.

 

[Bikenut]

I wrote something recently called "Why gun control will never work" its on page 2 of this forum if you havent read it already, but at the end I wrote: "A Criminal will carry a gun if they want to carry a gun, a law abiding citizen will carry a gun if the government says he can"


In all reality a criminal enjoys the right to bear arms to its fullest extent, they carry a gun whenever they want without a license, they carry their gun however they want, and they can buy a gun without asking for permission or being forced to register them. Its the criminal who takes full advantage of the right to bear arms while the law abiding citizens have to ask permission to carry concealed and obtain a license to do so, they have to register their guns and ask to buy one, and can only carry their firearm where the law says they can.

Actually it is a criminal government that infringes upon the right to bear arms by punishing those who bear arms without the government's permission.

 

[stainless1911]

in all reality a criminal enjoys the right to bear arms to its fullest extent, they carry a gun whenever they want without a license, they carry their gun however they want, and they can buy a gun without asking for permission or being forced to register them. Its the criminal who takes full advantage of the right to bear arms while the law abiding citizens have to ask permission to carry concealed and obtain a license to do so, they have to register their guns and ask to buy one, and can only carry their firearm where the law says they can.

q... F... T...

 

[twoskinsonemanns]

not letting guns and explosives fall into the wrong hands.

This doesn't quite explain why records of the gun transfer have to be kept and eventually turned over to the ATF...

"A Criminal will carry a gun if they want to carry a gun, a law abiding citizen will carry a gun if the government says he can"

hmmm. I wonder how many criminals the gov would create if they banned guns for LAC?

 

[Evil Creamsicle]

Something else that occurred to me yesterday:

People argue that, to prevent or lower crime rates, more laws should be written.

But... whenever you write a law, you create a brand new crime. It doesn't affect existing crimes, it makes a new law to break, and thus makes it easier to become a criminal. Which, really, will have the complete opposite effect. Am i right?

 

[WalkingWolf]

Something else that occurred to me yesterday:

People argue that, to prevent or lower crime rates, more laws should be written.

But... whenever you write a law, you create a brand new crime. It doesn't affect existing crimes, it makes a new law to break, and thus makes it easier to become a criminal. Which, really, will have the complete opposite effect. Am i right?

You are correct, and that is part of the intent of gun control laws to make more felons exempted from firearms.

 

[TheQ]

Something else that occurred to me yesterday:

People argue that, to prevent or lower crime rates, more laws should be written.

But... whenever you write a law, you create a brand new crime. It doesn't affect existing crimes, it makes a new law to break, and thus makes it easier to become a criminal. Which, really, will have the complete opposite effect. Am i right?

Sorry. Ayn Rand beat you to this epiphany. She wrote about it in "Atlas Shrugged".

 

[Bikenut]

Sorry. Ayn Rand beat you to this epiphany. She wrote about it in "Atlas Shrugged".

And you beat me to posting about Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged".....