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O'Bama Sends DoD to Eject Citizen Troop Guardians from Strip Malls in Las Vegas!

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Here's a partial update.

Regarding the NLVPD letter, he's indicating that one of the facilities is fully owned by the feds. I haven't been up there so don't really know. It may be moot and may not. Apparently they're ignoring case law and waiting to hear from an attorney or see an action filed.

I haven't heard from the others so I'm guessing that's their same approach. I filed a complaint with the ACLU today, per the suggestion of a couple of our guys. This is right up their alley.

Next, I was contacted by one of the reporters that I'm working with today and he's been latching onto this like a pit bull. He's uncovered who the mystery woman is and who she works for. I haven't seen the details but he assures me that we'll be pleased with the story which will run on the front page of their paper on Monday.

She's DoD, Army Corp of Engineers out of Nellis. We'll have to see what else he's uncovered.

The downer is that our guys who've been faithfully manning the Henderson station have now been kicked out. A plain-clothed gunnery Sgt. showed up to ask them to leave so they had HPD respond. Our ally with HPD was off yesterday so three others responded who politely asked them to leave.

Interesting change of policy for Henderson; maybe it needs to go a little higher so they can all get on the same page. But the guys are really pretty fed up with this, as are the rest of us.

The consensus seems to be that if the military doesn't want us there then why the hell should we waste our time trying to protect them? My experience has been that the troops are fine with it and thankful but the brass is following orders. Maybe another station or two will have to be hit before they see the light.

For me it's about policy change and nothing else. When you're on duty you KNOW that any particular station can be targeted at any time, while also knowing that the chances are very remote. The bigger picture is what's important, seeing the feds arm their stations nationwide. Our troops are worth it.

So my feeling is that short of a Court Order we're wasting our time. I may be able to make a personal visit to the sheriff and PD chiefs to plead our legal position, but I think it's up to an attorney at this point. I have a name of a good local attorney who I may contact if the ACLU has no interest. I think knowing that we have carte-blanche access will be a game changer for a lot of us because I'll sure be out there continuing if I know we won't have any resistance.

I have zero respect for our President and feel that embarrassing or shaming him may be the only way results will be achieved.

Or, or course, if we just happen to take down some bad guys in their attempt to do our troops harm.
 

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I think that's a great blurb for the cards.

Here's the official response from NLVPD. I have some more important updates to add when I free up more time.

Mr O'Brien;

I have received your e mail, and just wanted to clarify the North Las Vegas Police stance on this issue.. You are correct that Nevada is a legal open carry state, however, you need to realize that the recruitment centers are all privately owned property of the federal government...
All the recruitment centers and the surrounding land is OWNED by the Federal government? If they're anything like the ones we have around here, where the rc is located in a strip mall, I very, very highly doubt it.

I think the rc is nothing more than a tenant of a *real* private property owner.

I think the Asst. Chief is blowing smoke. A quick check of property records ought to tell the tale.

Keep up the fight!
 

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Originally Posted by Ron_O
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I think that's a great blurb for the cards.

Here's the official response from NLVPD. I have some more important updates to add when I free up more time.

Mr O'Brien;

I have received your e mail, and just wanted to clarify the North Las Vegas Police stance on this issue.. You are correct that Nevada is a legal open carry state, however, you need to realize that the recruitment centers are all privately owned property of the federal government...
Now there is an interesting twist - federal property is privately owned property :lol:
 
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Here's a partial update.

Regarding the NLVPD letter, he's indicating that one of the facilities is fully owned by the feds. I haven't been up there so don't really know. It may be moot and may not. Apparently they're ignoring case law and waiting to hear from an attorney or see an action filed.

I haven't heard from the others so I'm guessing that's their same approach. I filed a complaint with the ACLU today, per the suggestion of a couple of our guys. This is right up their alley.

Next, I was contacted by one of the reporters that I'm working with today and he's been latching onto this like a pit bull. He's uncovered who the mystery woman is and who she works for. I haven't seen the details but he assures me that we'll be pleased with the story which will run on the front page of their paper on Monday.

She's DoD, Army Corp of Engineers out of Nellis. We'll have to see what else he's uncovered.

The downer is that our guys who've been faithfully manning the Henderson station have now been kicked out. A plain-clothed gunnery Sgt. showed up to ask them to leave so they had HPD respond. Our ally with HPD was off yesterday so three others responded who politely asked them to leave.

Interesting change of policy for Henderson; maybe it needs to go a little higher so they can all get on the same page. But the guys are really pretty fed up with this, as are the rest of us.

The consensus seems to be that if the military doesn't want us there then why the hell should we waste our time trying to protect them? My experience has been that the troops are fine with it and thankful but the brass is following orders. Maybe another station or two will have to be hit before they see the light.

For me it's about policy change and nothing else. When you're on duty you KNOW that any particular station can be targeted at any time, while also knowing that the chances are very remote. The bigger picture is what's important, seeing the feds arm their stations nationwide. Our troops are worth it.

So my feeling is that short of a Court Order we're wasting our time. I may be able to make a personal visit to the sheriff and PD chiefs to plead our legal position, but I think it's up to an attorney at this point. I have a name of a good local attorney who I may contact if the ACLU has no interest. I think knowing that we have carte-blanche access will be a game changer for a lot of us because I'll sure be out there continuing if I know we won't have any resistance.

I have zero respect for our President and feel that embarrassing or shaming him may be the only way results will be achieved.

Or, or course, if we just happen to take down some bad guys in their attempt to do our troops harm.

Ron,

Good update and thanks. As stated before, I was senior recruiter in charge of all NAVY recruiters and support staff for New Jersey, NYC (5) boroughs, Long Island and Westchester/Putnam county from 1990-1993 the largest(in population) recruiter center in the country. ALL our space was LEASED. It is rare that a STATE recruiting district headquarters or individual all military branch/individual branch recruiting station is OWNED by the Feds

You normally see recruiting stations at OWNED properties where there is IRS,DOJ,FBI and other smaller Fed entities also in the federally OWNED BUILDING. I attended many meetings with head recruiters from all over the country and not once was OWNING a strip mall brought up.

So, the woman is a Army Corp of Engineers flack. They are the administrators for federally OWNED properties. If the recruiting station is leased from a private property owner, it is my NON LEGAL opinion she has NO authority over anything OUTSIDE the actual recruiting station. It is also my NON LEGAL opinion that while the recruiting station is being leased, the INSIDE of the station IS federal property for the duration of the lease and you can be trespassed by the Feds inside the station AND charged for federal violations inside the station.

The chiefs at the city's police departments have attorneys. The attorneys know this. The "threat" of Fed funding for their "toys" is probably being implied to them.

I think the ACLU is a good move. Will see if they stand up for ALL Americans free speech rights or just the chosen few that they are sympathetic to.

The police will take the path of least resistance and tell you to leave instead of telling Ms. Prissy of DOD to piss up a rope. You notice Sheriff Joe Ariapo of Maricopa Cty, AZ is ignoring DOD. And Milwaukee Cty Sheriff Clarke in Wisconsin told them to piss off. Ours are P-----s.

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Ron,

Good update and thanks. As stated before, I was senior recruiter in charge of all NAVY recruiters and support staff for New Jersey, NYC (5) boroughs, Long Island and Westchester/Putnam county from 1990-1993 the largest(in population) recruiter center in the country. ALL our space was LEASED. It is rare that a STATE recruiting district headquarters or individual all military branch/individual branch recruiting station is OWNED by the Feds

You normally see recruiting stations at OWNED properties where there is IRS,DOJ,FBI and other smaller Fed entities also in the federally OWNED BUILDING. I attended many meetings with head recruiters from all over the country and not once was OWNING a strip mall brought up.

So, the woman is a Army Corp of Engineers flack. They are the administrators for federally OWNED properties. If the recruiting station is leased from a private property owner, it is my NON LEGAL opinion she has NO authority over anything OUTSIDE the actual recruiting station. It is also my NON LEGAL opinion that while the recruiting station is being leased, the INSIDE of the station IS federal property for the duration of the lease and you can be trespassed by the Feds inside the station AND charged for federal violations inside the station.

The chiefs at the city's police departments have attorneys. The attorneys know this. The "threat" of Fed funding for their "toys" is probably being implied to them.

I think the ACLU is a good move. Will see if they stand up for ALL Americans free speech rights or just the chosen few that they are sympathetic to.

The police will take the path of least resistance and tell you to leave instead of telling Ms. Prissy of DOD to piss up a rope. You notice Sheriff Joe Ariapo of Maricopa Cty, AZ is ignoring DOD. And Milwaukee Cty Sheriff Clarke in Wisconsin told them to piss off. Ours are P-----s.

NAVYBLUE/#WeAreAllMarinesNow

I agree completely and if I haven't said it before I'll say it now, CONGRATS on the level of success that you achieved with the Navy and THANKS AGAIN for your service!

I haven't been to the property in question that the NLVPD chief is referring to but if it's not a stand-alone center then surely it's simply leased space. Not worth the drive up to check it out because I'm on the far south end of town. I asked our guy up there but haven't heard back from him regarding the one he was at.

Depending on how things unfold I'll either contact an attorney soon or let it go altogether in light of the news that FOX has reported over the weekend. I'm also curious to see what the RJ reporter has uncovered.

Fox News reports that the NAVY has given the go ahead to arm posts outside its recruiting centers EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. They mention that they're going to train the guys in. Some of the people who responded online to the Fox report stated that they hoped the Navy guys would actually have bullets in their guns because they never did when they were arming posts while they were active duty. We'll have to see.

Here's the Fox News story: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/0...rs-after-chattanooga-shootings/?intcmp=hplnws
 

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Congrats, you guys made the front page of the Las Vegas Review Journal this morning in a VERY interesting and eye opening story. Reporter Craig Kudialis did a bit of leg work and tracked down the name of the mystery woman. It seems that Army Corps of Engineers representative Daphne Weekly had absolutely no authority to evict the citizen guards, nor did she have a directive from the DoD to back her up. Furthermore, all landlords of the privately owned property where the recruiting offices are located claimed to have received not a single complaint about the presence of the volunteers.

I am very interested to see how Metro and Henderson PD will go forward with this situation considering the new information.

(cross posted @ Nevada Shooters)
 

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Congrats, you guys made the front page of the Las Vegas Review Journal this morning in a VERY interesting and eye opening story. Reporter Craig Kudialis did a bit of leg work and tracked down the name of the mystery woman. It seems that Army Corps of Engineers representative Daphne Weekly had absolutely no authority to evict the citizen guards, nor did she have a directive from the DoD to back her up. Furthermore, all landlords of the privately owned property where the recruiting offices are located claimed to have received not a single complaint about the presence of the volunteers.

I am very interested to see how Metro and Henderson PD will go forward with this situation considering the new information.

(cross posted @ Nevada Shooters)

I haven't had a chance to see the article yet but she was clearly acting as a Lone Wolf in doing what she did. I posted a response on Nevada Shooters but will post again here after I've seen the article.

In the meantime, not sure if this is appropriate so correct me if it isn't and I'll remove it, but here's the woman in question as shown on her public Facebook page.

She's a clear Obama supporter and has posted several pics from Nellis. This is the same woman from my video.

If she came in contact with any of you while you were standing guard then please shoot me a message.

https://www.facebook.com/daphne.weekly
 

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Time to Have Lone Wolf Obama Enthusiast Daphne Weekly Arrested?

After reading the article it appears that she's a Lone Wolf who was pulling strings every way she could to get us trespassed. She works for Army Corps of Engineers and they handle the leases of the recruiting centers, the obvious reason that she was so well known by the recruiters.

It also appears that she represented herself as the property manager of the NLV Craig center when she called NLVPD to state that they'd had 'numerous complaints' from concerned citizens.

The article clearly states that there were ZERO complaints ANYWHERE.

So she defrauded the police several times in several jurisdictions.

Her Facebook page shows her as being a staunch Obama supporter. She obviously subscribes to his pattern of lawlessness.

Thoughts on having her arrested?
 

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After reading the article it appears that she's a Lone Wolf who was pulling strings every way she could to get us trespassed. She works for Army Corps of Engineers and they handle the leases of the recruiting centers, the obvious reason that she was so well known by the recruiters.

It also appears that she represented herself as the property manager of the NLV Craig center when she called NLVPD to state that they'd had 'numerous complaints' from concerned citizens.

The article clearly states that there were ZERO complaints ANYWHERE.

So she defrauded the police several times in several jurisdictions.

Her Facebook page shows her as being a staunch Obama supporter. She obviously subscribes to his pattern of lawlessness.

Thoughts on having her arrested?
Doubt you'll see much success.

Suspect complaints to her employer might be more effective.
 

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Doubt you'll see much success.

Suspect complaints to her employer might be more effective.



Here's the article: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/military/landlords-deny-involvement-recruiting-center-evictions

I think she's committed several crimes here, including lying to the police in at least two jurisdictions, trying to execute a false arrest (citation/trespassing), misrepresenting her authority as a landlord and official representative of the DoD, and more. If she used the Gunnery Sgt. to defraud the Henderson PD then that's three jurisdictions.

I'm going to shoot off an email to the NLVPD AC in a little while as my first response to his erroneous email to me last week. I'll have to bring his competence into question after seeing the facts as presented in the article. NLVPD obviously never verified who the complainant was when they took the call or they were flat-out LYING to Josh when they ran him off the property (see his video). Josh tells me that center is in a mall and not self-standing so there's no way on the planet that it's owned by DoD, only leased, as speculated earlier.

How he could make such obvious misstatements is beyond me unless Ms. Weekly somehow convinced them that it was true. At this point I wouldn't put anything past her. Who ELSE could have made such a call? Keep in mind that that call was made the day after Metro confronted her on my behalf. I'm guessing that was her new tactic, trying to get results by stealth proxy.
 

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Here's the article: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/military/landlords-deny-involvement-recruiting-center-evictions

I think she's committed several crimes here, including lying to the police in at least two jurisdictions, trying to execute a false arrest (citation/trespassing), misrepresenting her authority as a landlord and official representative of the DoD, and more. If she used the Gunnery Sgt. to defraud the Henderson PD then that's three jurisdictions.

I'm going to shoot off an email to the NLVPD AC in a little while as my first response to his erroneous email to me last week. I'll have to bring his competence into question after seeing the facts as presented in the article. NLVPD obviously never verified who the complainant was when they took the call or they were flat-out LYING to Josh when they ran him off the property (see his video). Josh tells me that center is in a mall and not self-standing so there's no way on the planet that it's owned by DoD, only leased, as speculated earlier.

How he could make such obvious misstatements is beyond me unless Ms. Weekly somehow convinced them that it was true. At this point I wouldn't put anything past her. Who ELSE could have made such a call? Keep in mind that that call was made the day after Metro confronted her on my behalf. I'm guessing that was her new tactic, trying to get results by stealth proxy.
Therein lay the problem. First proving that she made the call, then getting a prosecutor to pursue charges.
 

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Therein lay the problem. First proving that she made the call, then getting a prosecutor to pursue charges.

Here's the email that I just shot off to the NLVPD Assistant Chief in response to his email last week (posted earlier).


____________________________​


Hello Mr. Noahr,


Thanks so much for your response. I've had a busy week and we've been sorting through legalities since I heard from you. In reviewing your letter I'm actually quite concerned as to the content as you've related it. It also seems that you've completely avoided the legal issues that I presented regarding the Supreme Court ruling of Amalgamated Food Union vs. Logan Valley. Not sure why but apparently you haven't consulted with your staff attorney or you feel we're pretty ignorant.


Please allow me to remind you that we have no desire to be adversaries with NLVPD or any other agency. We're on the same team. But I feel I outlined our case pretty concisely and you seem to have sent back a pile of rhetoric which only slightly resembles fact.


First, allow me to point you to an article that was posted in the Review-Journal this morning. We've been working with the media for quite a while.


Check the article here, it involves your department: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/military/landlords-deny-involvement-recruiting-center-evictions


I'll get back to that shortly but first allow me to address a couple of points.


Firstly, contrary to your statements below, the DoD owns NONE OF THE RECRUITING CENTER PROPERTIES. None of them. What they do is lease space from the mall owners and nothing more. They have authority only over the property within their walls. The common areas, parking lots, and neighboring shops are all something that they have no legal say over. None. That's up to the property owner itself.


REGARDING their government-leased property, it is well known that the INSIDE of their building is a gun-free zone. But that restriction ENDS THERE. They have zero say over legally carried firearms outside of their leased space. NONE.


Further, as stated by the national DoD spokesman, the DoD can't trespass civilians from ANY private property ANYWHERE, not even as lessees. Check with your attorneys or call DoD if you need confirmation. They had no legal authority to ask Josh Martin to leave the property simply because he was carrying guns.


Next, we would like to see proof of whomever it was that called you to complain. Josh took video of your interaction with him and in it your officers state several times that the 'property manager' had received numerous complaints about our presence there. How did you verify the identity of this property manager, and who was it actually? If you read the above referenced RJ article you'll see that they did some follow-up and learned that there was not a SINGLE complaint regarding us from ANY of the centers across the county, in particular the ones that we were trespassed from. Not a single landlord received a complaint and not a single landlord asked to have any of us removed.


So who's lying? Were your officers lied to, or were they lying to Josh Martin? We need to have an answer because if it was Daphne Weekly who contacted you then she lied to you in an attempt to violate our guys' rights while threatening them with an illegal arrest/citation (trespass). She's been doing this all over town without any sort of authorization. Do you so readily allow imposters to use your agency to do their bidding?


The RJ article is the third in a series. What the reporter found was that NO ORDERS were given to trespass anyone, but Daphne Weekly fabricated complaints and then misrepresented landlords in an effort to have us removed from all of the recruiting stations. She had no such authority and all of her superiors deny any knowledge of her efforts. She was acting as a complete Lone Wolf. We can only speculate on her motivations. Is she anti-gun? An Obama loyalist? A Muslim sympathizer? At this point we can't know. She claimed to have been acting only as a result of a 'statement' made by the DoD which suggested that they'd prefer we not be outside of their recruiting centers. She seems to have taken that request as being a license to have us ejected, which it clearly IS NOT.


If Ms. Weekly lied to you in order to violate our rights then we'd like to press charges and have her arrested. We are asking the same of Metro and Henderson PD. Keep in mind that we have all of this on video, which I sent to you earlier but you can also find in the links below.


Regarding your statement about the troops not wanting armed guards, we respectfully disagree. We can produce numerous accounts of the troops inside the buildings personally reaching out to our guys in a heartfelt moment of gratitude. I have personally been asked to send guys up to the former Dodge dealership which is now a reserve center because those guys are scared due to threats over the past year and lots of videos of their center posted on YouTube. Some of them refuse to wear their uniforms out of fear, as I've been told.


We've received the same reception all across the valley.


Just to recap, the Supreme Court ruling states that mall property owners lose their trespass rights when it comes to people protesting outside their businesses if the protest relates directly to that business. Ours is a very clear message to the President and Pentagon and that is undeniable. We are drafting handouts for the public in addition to the verbal communications we've exchanged with them thus far. If you don't see us as protesters then once again I suggest that you refer the issue to your legal team. We have clear 1st Amendment rights to be there, in addition to others.


I'll leave it at that for now but please be aware that we're preparing for legal action against NLVPD regarding this matter. Our men and women have been all over the valley without a single complaint whatsoever and were in our third week of doing so when you asked Josh and his partner to leave. Josh tells me he wants to be out there again today and if so we'd like your confirmation that he has every legal right to do what he's been doing.


Please consult your legal department before responding.


I am enclosing my first email to you again below because your online email formatting made things difficult to read. Please check the links and references before responding.


Thanks in advance for a timely and INFORMED response.


Best Regards,


Ron O'Brien
 

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Here's the email that I just shot off to the NLVPD Assistant Chief in response to his email last week (posted earlier).


____________________________​


Hello Mr. Noahr,


Thanks so much for your response. I've had a busy week and we've been sorting through legalities since I heard from you. In reviewing your letter I'm actually quite concerned as to the content as you've related it. It also seems that you've completely avoided the legal issues that I presented regarding the Supreme Court ruling of Amalgamated Food Union vs. Logan Valley. Not sure why but apparently you haven't consulted with your staff attorney or you feel we're pretty ignorant.


Please allow me to remind you that we have no desire to be adversaries with NLVPD or any other agency. We're on the same team. But I feel I outlined our case pretty concisely and you seem to have sent back a pile of rhetoric which only slightly resembles fact.


First, allow me to point you to an article that was posted in the Review-Journal this morning. We've been working with the media for quite a while.


Check the article here, it involves your department: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/military/landlords-deny-involvement-recruiting-center-evictions


I'll get back to that shortly but first allow me to address a couple of points.


Firstly, contrary to your statements below, the DoD owns NONE OF THE RECRUITING CENTER PROPERTIES. None of them. What they do is lease space from the mall owners and nothing more. They have authority only over the property within their walls. The common areas, parking lots, and neighboring shops are all something that they have no legal say over. None. That's up to the property owner itself.


REGARDING their government-leased property, it is well known that the INSIDE of their building is a gun-free zone. But that restriction ENDS THERE. They have zero say over legally carried firearms outside of their leased space. NONE.


Further, as stated by the national DoD spokesman, the DoD can't trespass civilians from ANY private property ANYWHERE, not even as lessees. Check with your attorneys or call DoD if you need confirmation. They had no legal authority to ask Josh Martin to leave the property simply because he was carrying guns.


Next, we would like to see proof of whomever it was that called you to complain. Josh took video of your interaction with him and in it your officers state several times that the 'property manager' had received numerous complaints about our presence there. How did you verify the identity of this property manager, and who was it actually? If you read the above referenced RJ article you'll see that they did some follow-up and learned that there was not a SINGLE complaint regarding us from ANY of the centers across the county, in particular the ones that we were trespassed from. Not a single landlord received a complaint and not a single landlord asked to have any of us removed.


So who's lying? Were your officers lied to, or were they lying to Josh Martin? We need to have an answer because if it was Daphne Weekly who contacted you then she lied to you in an attempt to violate our guys' rights while threatening them with an illegal arrest/citation (trespass). She's been doing this all over town without any sort of authorization. Do you so readily allow imposters to use your agency to do their bidding?


The RJ article is the third in a series. What the reporter found was that NO ORDERS were given to trespass anyone, but Daphne Weekly fabricated complaints and then misrepresented landlords in an effort to have us removed from all of the recruiting stations. She had no such authority and all of her superiors deny any knowledge of her efforts. She was acting as a complete Lone Wolf. We can only speculate on her motivations. Is she anti-gun? An Obama loyalist? A Muslim sympathizer? At this point we can't know. She claimed to have been acting only as a result of a 'statement' made by the DoD which suggested that they'd prefer we not be outside of their recruiting centers. She seems to have taken that request as being a license to have us ejected, which it clearly IS NOT.


If Ms. Weekly lied to you in order to violate our rights then we'd like to press charges and have her arrested. We are asking the same of Metro and Henderson PD. Keep in mind that we have all of this on video, which I sent to you earlier but you can also find in the links below.


Regarding your statement about the troops not wanting armed guards, we respectfully disagree. We can produce numerous accounts of the troops inside the buildings personally reaching out to our guys in a heartfelt moment of gratitude. I have personally been asked to send guys up to the former Dodge dealership which is now a reserve center because those guys are scared due to threats over the past year and lots of videos of their center posted on YouTube. Some of them refuse to wear their uniforms out of fear, as I've been told.


We've received the same reception all across the valley.


Just to recap, the Supreme Court ruling states that mall property owners lose their trespass rights when it comes to people protesting outside their businesses if the protest relates directly to that business. Ours is a very clear message to the President and Pentagon and that is undeniable. We are drafting handouts for the public in addition to the verbal communications we've exchanged with them thus far. If you don't see us as protesters then once again I suggest that you refer the issue to your legal team. We have clear 1st Amendment rights to be there, in addition to others.


I'll leave it at that for now but please be aware that we're preparing for legal action against NLVPD regarding this matter. Our men and women have been all over the valley without a single complaint whatsoever and were in our third week of doing so when you asked Josh and his partner to leave. Josh tells me he wants to be out there again today and if so we'd like your confirmation that he has every legal right to do what he's been doing.


Please consult your legal department before responding.


I am enclosing my first email to you again below because your online email formatting made things difficult to read. Please check the links and references before responding.


Thanks in advance for a timely and INFORMED response.


Best Regards,


Ron O'Brien

Ron,

1. You have a future as an attorney/legal assistant. I, like you possess what I consider above average comprehension skills and that's where good lawyers win cases as case law can be VERY difficult to decipher.

2. Happy to see "Reserve Centers", NOT on federal land will have "armed"(hopefully with real ammo and NOT bean bags) but that will still leave "leased" recruiting centers in malls and the other places at risk.

3. Has anyone heard from Oathkeepers of a nationwide coordinated effort to protect the public recruiting stations ?

4. Someone (I am still back east until 9/12) who knows attorneys may may want to call a pro bono attorney who wants to make a name for themselves to maybe sue Ms Fancy Britches from DoD.

Keep the faith, brother.

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After reading the article it appears that she's a Lone Wolf who was pulling strings every way she could to get us trespassed. She works for Army Corps of Engineers and they handle the leases of the recruiting centers, the obvious reason that she was so well known by the recruiters.

It also appears that she represented herself as the property manager of the NLV Craig center when she called NLVPD to state that they'd had 'numerous complaints' from concerned citizens.

The article clearly states that there were ZERO complaints ANYWHERE.

So she defrauded the police several times in several jurisdictions.

Her Facebook page shows her as being a staunch Obama supporter. She obviously subscribes to his pattern of lawlessness.

Thoughts on having her arrested?
I don't know if it is actionable, but it seems to me that Ms. Lying ACoE employee attempted to deprive various people of their rights.
 

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No GI is gunna sign a "OK letter" if his boss holds a differing view. The GI will likely be a spectator and report back to his boss...if he has gots any brains that is.

There is nothing better than bringing bad press onto the Corps of Engineers to have them address Daphne Weekly and her claimed authority.

As to the cops outright lying...keep us posted please.
 

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Wanted to post an update.

First, I haven't heard a thing from NLVPD since shooting off that email to them.

Next, Henderson PD had sent me a response a while back that said they'd treat each incident on an individual basis. Our last interaction with them, that I'm aware of, was when they insisted that two of our guys leave the Henderson recruiting center that they'd been manning for weeks, having been previously told by HPD that they had every right to do. I was there and personally spoke with an HPD sergeant who had assured us that our rights to protest would be fervently protected.

We now know that this was all initiated by the actions of DoD ACoA employee Daphne Weekly who has seemingly fabricated complaints, phone calls, and false orders from Washington DC in her own personal rogue effort to run our guys and gals away from the recruiting centers that we were protecting.

The consensus among our guys has been that this was nothing worth perpetuating unless or until we had some legal finality in the matter. We see it as a waste of private and public time and resources to continue if the outcome was going to continue along the same lines; the police being called and our guys being run off under threat of trespass.

The only question is whether we'll actually SEE any resistance at this point now that Daphne Weekly has been outed. The facts are that the Navy and perhaps others have now ordered that their troops be armed in the field. I'm not sure of how widespread that mindset has been cast across the other military departments but it's probably worth investigating. Has anyone seen any armed military guards outside any of the recruiting centers? Perhaps they're carrying inside, which is a step forward, but I'm not aware of anyone outside any of the centers.

In researching this it seems that Ms. Weekly has violated several laws, in addition to our civil rights. I've wanted to get a solid feel for our legal standing before moving forward, letting things simmer while I absorb, assess, and analyze what's happened.

In that process I had a kind gentleman do some research and send me a couple of NRS codes that I wanted to get your opinions on. I have an excellent attorney that I want to consult with on this case but before doing so I want to prepare a full package for him, including any and all applicable statutes. If you know of any others, be it Nevada or federal, please post them here.

I believe we need to seek the arrest and prosecution of this woman as well as civil and punitive damages from the agencies involved. She should be terminated if she hasn't been already.

Here are the NRS codes that were outlined to me:

NRS 197.180 Wrongful exercise of official power.

Any person who willfully takes upon himself or herself to exercise or officiate in any office or place of another, without being lawfully authorized thereto, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. [1911 C&P § 539; RL § 6804; NCL § 10485]—(NRS A 1967, 462)

NRS 197.200 Oppression under color of office.

1. An officer, or a person pretending to be an officer, who unlawfully and maliciously, under pretense or color of official authority:

(a) Arrests or detains a person against the person’s will;
(b) Seizes or levies upon another’s property;
(c) Dispossesses another of any lands or tenements; or
(d) Does any act whereby the person, property or rights of another person are injured, commits oppression.

2. An officer or person committing oppression shall be punished:

(a) Where physical force or the immediate threat of physical force is used, for a category D felony as provided in NRS 193.130.
(b) Where no physical force or immediate threat of physical force is used, for a gross misdemeanor. [1911 C&P § 541; RL § 6806; NCL § 10487]—(NRS A 1967, 462; 1995, 1172)

NRS 197.220 Other violations by officers. Every public officer or other person who shall willfully disobey any provision of law regulating his or her official conduct in cases for which no other punishment is provided shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. [1911 C&P § 563; RL § 6828; NCL § 10508]


If you have other statutes please post them here. Attorneys can be a bit lazy so doing their work in advance goes miles when it comes to deciding whether they're going to take the case.

If you think any part of these statutes IN PARTICULAR applies to us then please outline it and explain why you think it's applicable. If you think she can escape under the umbrella of "I handle the leases for the centers so I have every right to trespass whomever I please" then please state so and let us know why you feel that's true. Keep in mind that the national DoD spokesman told the reporter that they COULD NOT trespass individuals from private properties.

Also note that SCOTUS has ruled that protesters can do so in shopping centers as it applies to businesses within the centers.

I believe that we have been violated as Americans and should respond wholeheartedly in a way that will further prevent the erosion of our rights under a tyrannical mindset that has permeated our government officials.

Rights unexercised are rights that are lost.

To encapsulate, Daphne Weekly either certainly or probably did the following:

A> Personally ran our guys off of multiple stations under threat of law.

B> Ordered military personnel to run our guys off of multiple stations.

C> Lied to the police about orders she had (a 'letter') to run our guys off.

D> Lied in saying that she'd been told by property owners to run us off.

E> Represented herself to NPD to be the property manager of a center who had been receiving multiple complaints about our guys, then asking the police to run us off.

F> Likely called in a 'Man With a Gun' (MWAG) report against myself and another guy at the UNLV center shortly before we had the police confront her. (That would constitute a false report because she already knew why we were there and was generating false hysteria. See video. We can check phone records to see where the call originated; LVMPD stated to the reporter that it was from DoD).

G> Lied in general in stating that they'd had many complaints about us from the general public. The fact is that not a single complaint has been uncovered by anyone, particularly when querying the mall owners.

H> On separate occasions had numerous police respond to locations to escort us off of the properties, with a presumed threat of force should we not comply (asked to disarm on at least one occasion).

I> Police from three separate agencies unlawfully assisted Ms. Weekly in insisting that we leave, under threat of trespass. I want to hold them all accountable for their unlawful actions. It appears that they were ignorant of our protest rights as well as failing to verify who had called them in North Las Vegas while being told it was a property manager. They also gave us conflicting messages in Henderson, first telling us that we had every right to be there, just as those protesting Trader Joe's had, and then that we had to leave when asked by the gunnery sergeant.

I'm ready to take this to the next level. Thanks in advance for your input.

This is cross-posted on the Nevada Shooters site.
 
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Thank you for the follow through. I think we need to find applicable federal laws to even have a chance at her discipline, even though she also broke state laws.
 
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