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New Glock 42 POS?

Firearms Iinstuctor

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Price is often relative to what the buyer thinks is reasonable.

There handguns out there for a lot less money that I would not even think about buying.

I normally buy my firearms on the open free market used so I don't even come close paying retail.

When I could just pull a signed FFL out of the filing cabinet and order any gun at whole sale I wanted to I got spoiled.

Having to buy in this time of high demand is just asking to pay top prices If one can hold out a while we well see prices starting to fall. AR prices are already coming down a good bit.

Having to have the newest and greatest is also asking to pay premium prices for that model. If one can wait a year or two chances are prices well come down or one can pick up a used one a lot cheaper.

Good luck in your buying
 
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Most used guns are no longer less expensive than new guns. In the case of the 42 those that can get their hands on them are reselling them for 100 to 200 profit. Any coveted firearm these days will run for more used than new.
 

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Old adage in real estate applies here equally.

Market value is what a ready, willing and able buyer will pay at a given time.
 

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Old adage in real estate applies here equally.

Market value is what a ready, willing and able buyer will pay at a given time.

True, why I watch for value. The only reason I bought two Glocks is because I got a good deal on both. Both guns sold like hotcakes. The G22 G2 sold so fast they were gone in one day, I was lucky I did not wait to grab it. If it came down to it, and I was buying another gun I would have bought anything but a Glock. Not because Glocks are bad, they just are expensive for what they are. The S&W M&P is still a better deal than a glock, a SD is a better deal than a Glock. A Ruger SR is wayyyyy better deal than a Glock. SD's are starting to get hard to come by because people are realizing that they are almost equal to a Glock at $200 less price. Change the trigger with a 30 dollar spring set and the trigger is better than a Glock. That is still 170 dollars less than a Glock.

If I get offered a decent profit for either of my Glocks they will be gone, and replaced by a Ruger or M&P. IMO Glocks are way over coveted for what they are. While the quality of S&W revolvers has waned and they are overpriced, there semi autos are beginning to tear up the market with value.
 

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There are many firearms' that offer value for their cost It is up to the buyer to decide if that value is worth what they are paying for.

Some would say a custom 1911 in the 3 to 4 thousand range is worth the money others would say just buy a SR1911.

I recommend that one buys the best firearm one can afford what that is depends on the buyer.

Firearms manufactures are making and selling guns for a profit. If the price is too high a lot of people don't buy.

If Glocks can sell theirs for more then others must be that people want them. Are the others better value the market place well tell.

Its been a long time that I had to buy a firearm I can afford to wait for the right price.

If one needs something right now one is bound to pay a higher price for that item.
 

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Or some people just gotta have what the Jones have, and are willing to pay overpriced to do it. Nothing wrong with that hype and fads have been driving sales for decades. Not for me though, I much prefer value and common sense. It just does not make sense to pay more for a gun, when guns of greater value and quality go for less. Some of the gun public is finding this out and to S&W benefit.

I seriously hope that Glocks continue to grossly gain value, just for my own greedy purposes. I may break down and go against one of my own gripes, and buy several blue label Glocks. Just so I can make a greedy profit off of complete fools.
 

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Or Rugers I find their guns to be of very good value.

Maybe I'll find some one with a Ruger that will trade for one of my Glocks having another Ruger wouldn't hurt my feelings.

Would be fun to have something different.
 
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Well, a Ruger is not as tight as a Kimber, which was being discussed in the previous post.

This is not a bad thing. It's just a thing.

The Kimber is probably a fair bit more accurate, but may need more (some) break-in for reliability.

There is nothing wrong with a Ruger for a sidearm. I recommend them often, including to a very good friend who bought one and carries it.

But you won't see it do what a Kimber, or one of the even better brands, can do at 40+ yards.



I have several kimbers and love them. 100% reliable for me except the 3" CDP with certain ammo types. It prefers a very rounded nose bullet because of the short feed ramp. As long as that's what you feed it, it runs fine. I had a friend show me his new rock island 45. It's a great value i think but i could tell a substantial difference in the fit, finish and tightness of the weapon. The trigger was a very long pull as well. It's just like a car though, a toyota camry and a mercedes s430 are both great, reliable cars. One costs more for a reason. I dont knock anyone that has a rock island and wouldnt mind owning one myself.
 

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I have several kimbers and love them. 100% reliable for me except the 3" CDP with certain ammo types. It prefers a very rounded nose bullet because of the short feed ramp. As long as that's what you feed it, it runs fine. I had a friend show me his new rock island 45. It's a great value i think but i could tell a substantial difference in the fit, finish and tightness of the weapon. The trigger was a very long pull as well. It's just like a car though, a toyota camry and a mercedes s430 are both great, reliable cars. One costs more for a reason. I dont knock anyone that has a rock island and wouldnt mind owning one myself.

The thing with Rock Islands is they can be improved very much with the money saved. Plus the 1911 was never meant to be a tight gun. I built my 1911 with A1 milsurp parts it is loose, or appears loose but shoots fantastic. And that is with a original military barrel, link, and slide. The only thing that really counts for accuracy in a 1911 is the three locking points. Two must be tight the slide stop, and the locking lugs. The third is tight by pressure from the recoil spring on the bushing.

The spring pushes the bushing forward at the bottom, locking it on the barrel and in the slide, it must be somewhat loose to do this. Where companies like Kimber make a mistake is over powered recoil spring, and a fitted bushing that is fitted NOT to tilt. It cause the barrel to bind in the bushing and makes the gun unreliable until it breaks in. There is no need for this for a accurate gun, there is no need for the slide to be gripping the frame tightly. This is why Rock Islands have become so popular, because they are looser fitted and they work, much like Glocks only less expensive. Same for the Remington copy of their original A1, they just perform.

People do not understand they do not have to spend thousands on a combat 1911. Almost any gun can be redone to make it pretty if that is the case. While Kimber is a excellent gun AFTER it breaks in. RI, and Remmies will always run straight from the box, with a few exceptions.

I have shot bullseye with a Colt Sistema, the only modifications needed were the addition of adjustable target sights. I paid $100 dollars for that gun, and the sights installed cost $50. I had offers of 500 dollars for it shooting beside shooters with thousand dollar guns. I finally broke down for $600.

I used to buy these guns ten at a time, refinish them and sell them for double, because at the range I proved they were reliable, and they were accurate. And after the teflon industrial gear treatment they looked tactical back then. It helped feed the 5 children I was raising. Unfortunately there are very little deals on imported surplus guns these days, except for the Rock. If I did not have my home built A1 I would buy a Rock in an instant, like Glocks which were on the low end originally, the Rocks popularity and value will increase. Just like S&W M&Ps are now, right now used M&Ps are going for about 10 bucks less than a new one. As the new value of M&Ps go up, so will the used value, but if I get one, I will get a new one.

The same goes for the SRs and the SDs, they both are getting harder to come by in the LGS for reasonable. The only deals on them are online, and mostly only new ones. Gun Broker and Armslist have become jokes, for essentially unlicensed firearm dealers. Nothing wrong with that though, I used to do it, but then later I got my FFL, because I did not want to lose my liberty. I don't sell guns for extra income no more so I did not want the hassle of having BATFE breathing down my neck.

Forgot to add there was a time the Rocks were going for $200 a piece in shotgun news from SARCO. That was a good many years ago. But just shows that inexpensive quality and value guns are still a good investment. To give you a idea, I payed around $250 for my A1 when done, I probably could get $400 or more for it now. That is still a good profit, and a good investment.
 
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Our Experience with Glock G42s

:arrow: We researched the G42 pretty thoroughly, and rented one to try out at the local shooting range.

I am handicapped by rheumatoid disease (rheumatoid arthritis). My muscle strength is very low, and my hand grip is weak. I need a smaller grip. I cannot handle a 9mil - tried, can't do it. Checked out the G43 and the G26, also. The G42 was my choice.

My husband and I have put over 500 rounds (some Russian, some Sellier) through each of the three G42s. NO problems whatsoever with one exception. One of the pistols would not eject the magazine - had to pull it out. :cry: Sent it back to Glock, Glock investigated and decided to issue a new replacement instead of repairing it. No complaints from this house about Glock service! :D

For anyone with small or weak hands or arms, I recommend the Glock G42 highly. I feel that I can defend myself better, now, than I could with my former handguns.

I hope Glock will develop a longer magazine that will hold a few more rounds. But 7 380s should be enough - especially as I usually carry 2 extra magazines. I'm very pleased with the G42, :exclaim: and would recommend it to anyone who is looking for a good 380.

Turtlemom4 in Georgia
 

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welcome to the organized chaos Milady...

and while not that brand of firearm's fan, you are, apparently carrying it so all is well...

again welcome and should or is a welcome being extended to your partner as well or is this your interest within the family?

ipse
 

Turtlemom4

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RE: Our Experience with Glock G42s

Thank you for the gracious welcome. I do all the Fora in our family. So I will be the only member from our household! ;)

We have, over many, many years, had several different brands and models of firearms. As we have gotten older and each have developed chronic illnesses, we have sold our firearms as needed (legally, through our local gun store) and replaced them with firearms more to our ability to use. We've gone through several sets, and I think our current set will be the last set we will own. We practice shooting as we are able. Himself goes to the range at least once a week, and I go about twice a month as health permits.

I look forward to visiting the forum on occasion, and having civil discourse with y'all.

Cheerio!
 

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Ugh, .380 ACP...
With the improvement in ammo over the years, .380 is equal to or better than the old 9mm rounds with certain exceptions IMHO.

Wonder who would volunteer to be the down range recipient of .380acp projectiles?
 

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With the improvement in ammo over the years, .380 is equal to or better than the old 9mm rounds with certain exceptions IMHO.

Wonder who would volunteer to be the down range recipient of .380acp projectiles?

The 380 always was a stopper, before all the "improvements". I will take penetration over lack of penetration.

In Europe the 32 acp was well respected as a police tool, as well as the 380 with FMJ. Penetration and shot placement, even a 22 will get the job done if used properly.
 

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I just don't personally like it. Nothing about the caliber speaks to my inner...intangible. My dad has a little AMT .380 Backup that he CCs. I really hate that gun. I would never carry .380 as a primary, that's all. I'd rather have it than nothing, but that doesn't really say much except I want the best chance of survival - and being armed always wins v. being unarmed.

The same argument could be made for using a butter knife to cut a ribeye steak. Sure, a serrated steak knife is much more efficient, but this really nice butter knife is plenty sharp!

:lol:
 

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People carry 380 for several reasons, I think the most popular is pocket carry which I am not a fan. But in compact, to medium frame pistols it is a round easy to shoot for those with hand, and wrist problems, and still be concealable(arghhhh). In full size pistol it is like shooting a 22, very minimal recoil.

Since we open carry 100% we are not limited to 380, but we own 3, plus one 9X18. They are good OWB guns for when a large gun is impractical. Only one is pocket sized, but never carried that way. Not a Glock fanboi, even with the later models problems being solved I still would not buy a 42 when their are better plastic guns at much less price. The seven shot Kahr comes to mind, as well as the shield, also seven shot, or the Ruger LC380. If I was to go with a plastic fantastic 380 though It would most likely be the Kahr, good price, high quality, reliable gun. Price on the seven shot 380 is around 300 dollars online.
 

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I just don't personally like it. Nothing about the caliber speaks to my inner...intangible. My dad has a little AMT .380 Backup that he CCs. I really hate that gun. I would never carry .380 as a primary, that's all. I'd rather have it than nothing, but that doesn't really say much except I want the best chance of survival - and being armed always wins v. being unarmed...

The blowback AMT is one of the worst .380 designs. Don't judge the cartridge because of that gun. One of the best benefits of the .380 is its controllability under fire, especially in concealable firearms.
 

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We all have different experience with different manufactures I would agree with the AMT as being below Parr I have found the quality of Khars to be iffy also they seem hit and miss. As with any mass produced item every manufacturer can turn out a lemon.

I found that major manufacturers have fewer problems than the lesser known ones sure one can get a bad Glock , Smith, Ruger ect. but they are rarer than smaller style up starts.

As far as the .380 cartridge I would not want to be shot with one.
 
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