bourneshooter
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*Note* This is the first time I've gone into Wal-Mart in probably 2-3 months because of
negative reactions to other posters here on OCDO.
This incident happend less that 45 minutes ago. 2056 MST.
Walk into Wal-Mart OC'ing. Wearing a plain T-shirt tucked in and respectable blue jeans. My brother is with me and he is also dressed respectably.
As soon as I approach the greeter he looks at me and points at my gun. I say, “I’m legal to do this in compliance with Wal-Mart policy.” He says, “No you can’t do that.”
So I say, “get your manager.” He promptly does call for one on the radio.
Then the greeter sort of “apologizes” for having to stop me. He continually said stuff like, “now I’m a gun man,” “my job is to stop you when they say no guns in the store,” and “You’re battle is with management.”
The first manager gets there – Asst. Manager.
I repeat to him that the Wal-Mart Company policy is to follow all State and Federal laws. “State law allows me to do this” The guy looks at me and says, “Ok.”
The Asst. Manager asks if my brother has a sidearm as well. He doesn’t and we let them know that. FYI, my brother is under 18 so no OC of a handgun for a little longer.
I then ask the Asst. Manager if I need to go elsewhere to shop.
He says exact quote, “I don’t know what the state law is on this.” This guy did know that you can OC in AZ but not here in ID. So I informed him that it is legal to OC here in ID.
Another Manager shows up. I believe this one was a department manager.
Dept. Manager states, “Our company policy doesn’t allow,” to which I state, “Actually it does, it says that if follows all state and federal laws.”
The Dept. Manager then states, “But this is private property.” Yes I agree but the policy is that I can carry in Wal-Mart.
The Dept Manager then says, “Can’t you leave it in your car?” I ask him, “Why would I want to?”
Dept. Manager, “Why do you need to carry? You’ve got your hammer cocked.”
At this point I try to answer the “why I need to carry question.”
“32 People were told they didn’t need to carry.” And then he cuts me off. I was making reference to the Virginia Tech Massacre of unarmed students.
Another manager then shows up and is acts totally different. I believe he may have been the Night Manager.
He states, “You can’t come in here with that on, I DON”T CARE.”
I try to let him know about the Wal-Mart policy at this point.
He then states, “Wal-Mart Policy is private property.”
I shake my head at that statement.
He then continues, “I’m going to call the police right now if you’re not out of here.”
The Dept. Manager then jumps in and says, “Just take it out to your car dude. (My recording becomes unclear at this point).
I immediately begin leaving the store as the Night Manager was pulling his cell phone out of his pocket.
It was interesting that these guys didn’t follow me out of the door.
Needless to say I’m slightly upset over the whole matter. :banghead:
The Walgreen’s across the street from this location received my business and will continue to if the Wal-Mart doesn't do something to fix this problem.
I'm attaching the link to the audio recording I made of the evening. Sorry for the quality as it was in my lower pants pocket.
http://www.mattlevi.zoomshare.com/files/Wal_Mart_OC_experience.m4a
*Note* This is the first time I've gone into Wal-Mart in probably 2-3 months because of
negative reactions to other posters here on OCDO.
This incident happend less that 45 minutes ago. 2056 MST.
Walk into Wal-Mart OC'ing. Wearing a plain T-shirt tucked in and respectable blue jeans. My brother is with me and he is also dressed respectably.
As soon as I approach the greeter he looks at me and points at my gun. I say, “I’m legal to do this in compliance with Wal-Mart policy.” He says, “No you can’t do that.”
So I say, “get your manager.” He promptly does call for one on the radio.
Then the greeter sort of “apologizes” for having to stop me. He continually said stuff like, “now I’m a gun man,” “my job is to stop you when they say no guns in the store,” and “You’re battle is with management.”
The first manager gets there – Asst. Manager.
I repeat to him that the Wal-Mart Company policy is to follow all State and Federal laws. “State law allows me to do this” The guy looks at me and says, “Ok.”
The Asst. Manager asks if my brother has a sidearm as well. He doesn’t and we let them know that. FYI, my brother is under 18 so no OC of a handgun for a little longer.
I then ask the Asst. Manager if I need to go elsewhere to shop.
He says exact quote, “I don’t know what the state law is on this.” This guy did know that you can OC in AZ but not here in ID. So I informed him that it is legal to OC here in ID.
Another Manager shows up. I believe this one was a department manager.
Dept. Manager states, “Our company policy doesn’t allow,” to which I state, “Actually it does, it says that if follows all state and federal laws.”
The Dept. Manager then states, “But this is private property.” Yes I agree but the policy is that I can carry in Wal-Mart.
The Dept Manager then says, “Can’t you leave it in your car?” I ask him, “Why would I want to?”
Dept. Manager, “Why do you need to carry? You’ve got your hammer cocked.”
At this point I try to answer the “why I need to carry question.”
“32 People were told they didn’t need to carry.” And then he cuts me off. I was making reference to the Virginia Tech Massacre of unarmed students.
Another manager then shows up and is acts totally different. I believe he may have been the Night Manager.
He states, “You can’t come in here with that on, I DON”T CARE.”
I try to let him know about the Wal-Mart policy at this point.
He then states, “Wal-Mart Policy is private property.”
I shake my head at that statement.
He then continues, “I’m going to call the police right now if you’re not out of here.”
The Dept. Manager then jumps in and says, “Just take it out to your car dude. (My recording becomes unclear at this point).
I immediately begin leaving the store as the Night Manager was pulling his cell phone out of his pocket.
It was interesting that these guys didn’t follow me out of the door.
Needless to say I’m slightly upset over the whole matter. :banghead:
The Walgreen’s across the street from this location received my business and will continue to if the Wal-Mart doesn't do something to fix this problem.
I'm attaching the link to the audio recording I made of the evening. Sorry for the quality as it was in my lower pants pocket.
http://www.mattlevi.zoomshare.com/files/Wal_Mart_OC_experience.m4a