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Mob of bikers surround SUV and get run over in NYC

CDT COX

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I'm convinced HandyHamlet gets paid every time he uses the word "clickbait"

Stop making excuses for these ********. I watched the video before, the 'main' video, and the one after before they were made private. In each one the bikers were riding like ******** and breaking the law. Especially in the one after when they realized what they had done and were fleeing the scene.

I try my best not to wish bad upon anyone but I'm happy these bikers learned that just because the guys on 'Sons of Anarchy' do what they want, if they threaten people sometimes they will lose.
 

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I agree, It is silly to still cling to the misinformation and emotional BS displayed in clickbait instead of looking for actual fact. You got played like a fiddle.

"What about the baby!!!" Jesus. Oldest trick in the book.


"Those bikers were a MOB of THUGS!" says the mob of thugs on the interwebs.



Nothing says bad to the bone like guys on quads ripping through NY. The horror...

The only person I see here getting emotional is you. I'll ask you directly. Are you saying the video is staged? Are you saying this is a purposeful a tempt to deceive? I understand that titles can be used to lure "hits". I understand stories get twisted to emphasize drama. What I don't understand is why you say "looking for actual fact" when we have a video taken by the perpetrators. This only makes sense if you believe the footage to be staged or otherwise purposefully deceptive. The footage shows the bikers plainly as a "mob of thugs".
 
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http://www.myfoxny.com/story/23567742/suv-driver-attacked-by-pack-of-bikers

Arrest in SUV driver attack by bikers



Posted: Sep 30, 2013 11:54 AM CDT Updated: Oct 01, 2013 11:33 AM CDT

If by emotional you mean laughing my ass off than yes.
Why would i think the video is fake when I have been citing it for three pages.
You say tomato I say the guy ran a bunch of people over. Because as the video shows... He did.

"He was surrounded after he hit a guy" BS. As the video shows he was surrounded as the pack progressed down the street. Before the accident. They ALL stopped after the accident. But let me guess. No one here stops after being in an accident. Right?

"Damaged his car" No proof of this, why would the cops say this? Were they there? I say BS reporting. As stated previously the damage could have been done weeks before or during the final beat down. The SUV was only stopped for a few seconds before he ran down three people. Hardly enough time for the bikers to stop, let alone get off their bikes and start any sh*t. And when bikers stop they immediately look at the bike and victim to assess the situation. They don't start the beatdown till they know whats going on. So, the freak behind the wheel may have been scared for his life. But it wasn't from anyone damaging his precious SUV. He was sh*tting bricks because he just hit a biker. He panicked. He fled. He ran people over. He did in fact cause serious injury. He got his ass kicked.

OR, the SUV hit him on purpose. He admits to hitting the biker but he never stopped long enough to even see if the guy was hurt. Or his precious SUV.

And for the one millionth time I think the Squids were being Squids. I don't condone Squids and their Squid antics.
 
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Apparently these fine, upstanding citizens, had over 200 calls to the police on them before this incident happened.
 
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If by emotional you mean laughing my ass off than yes.
Why would i think the video is fake when I have been citing it for three pages.
You say tomato I say the guy ran a bunch of people over. Because as the video shows... He did.

"He was surrounded after he hit a guy" BS. As the video shows he was surrounded as the pack progressed down the street. Before the accident. They ALL stopped after the accident. But let me guess. No one here stops after being in an accident. Right?

"Damaged his car" No proof of this, why would the cops say this? Were they there? I say BS reporting. As stated previously the damage could have been done weeks before or during the final beat down. The SUV was only stopped for a few seconds before he ran down three people. Hardly enough time for the bikers to stop, let alone get off their bikes and start any sh*t. And when bikers stop they immediately look at the bike and victim to assess the situation. They don't start the beatdown till they know whats going on. So, the freak behind the wheel may have been scared for his life. But it wasn't from anyone damaging his precious SUV. He was sh*tting bricks because he just hit a biker. He panicked. He fled. He ran people over. He did in fact cause serious injury. He got his ass kicked.

OR, the SUV hit him on purpose. He admits to hitting the biker but he never stopped long enough to even see if the guy was hurt. Or his precious SUV.

And for the one millionth time I think the Squids were being Squids. I don't condone Squids and their Squid antics.


Are you daft?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOyDMzn2bY#t=53

At 26 seconds the biker looks over his right shoulder at the range rover then looks over his left and hits the brakes. Contact. The range rover is surrounded then at 51 seconds the range rover takes off again. 25 seconds is plenty of time for the bikers to start their assault on the Range Rover.
 

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Are you daft?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOyDMzn2bY#t=53

At 26 seconds the biker looks over his right shoulder at the range rover then looks over his left and hits the brakes. Contact. The range rover is surrounded then at 51 seconds the range rover takes off again. 25 seconds is plenty of time for the bikers to start their assault on the Range Rover.

Which, according to the witnesses cited by the police, is what happened - of course, we have the conflicting witness, "Mr. Towles, who belongs to a Brooklyn motorcycle club" who might just be a bit biased, no?
 

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The dude didn't need a Range Rover he needed a tank!

Handy Hamlet, are you going to try to defend this, as well???????


More footage previous to Range Rover incident
A few videos pulled from the guy's YouTube account which he has now removed because it shows the behavior of the group at what I believe is before the incident with the Range Rover found here

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664#SEFFYGJQdKJX0OzY.99
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664


Like I said Mad Max/Road Warrior prequel. Run them all down!
 

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Handy Hamlet...

Yawn.

Comprehension ain't your strong suit is it.

Only a million times I have posted for the world to read.

I do not support Squids.


And thanks for proving my point Hero.
Like I said Mad Max/Road Warrior prequel. Run them all down!

Isn't condoning illegal activity against forum rules? Rules don't apply to Heroes.

Are you daft?

Are you? Nothing in the video at that time indicates any violence against the driver.

The range rover is surrounded then at 51 seconds the range rover takes off again.

Complete fabrication. The SUV was already swarmed while they were still moving, before he hit the bike. Everyone just stopped after that. There was nowhere to go for one thing. The road was blocked. No one came zooming in to "surround" anyone or come in for the kill after traffic halted. Total bull.


Which, according to the witnesses cited by the police, is what happened - of course, we have the conflicting witness, "Mr. Towles, who belongs to a Brooklyn motorcycle club" who might just be a bit biased, no?

Yawn.

Because the lib media and the guy who hit someone and didn't even ask if the guy was okay before running people over is SOOOOOOOooooo credible.
 
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FYI, the guy who was hit is paralyzed now. He had gone to help the first rider who was rear ended actually. From the video i watched, it appears the SUV driver and the rider had words while he was passing the SUV, he moved in front of him and looked over his shoulder. He never hit the brakes as you can see from his brake light. For those who ride sportbikes, you know rolling off the throttle can cut speed quickly, he is looking over his shoulder and may or may not have meant to do it. Even if he did, brake checking someone one doesnt mean you can rear end them on purpose or run over other riders nearby. The SUV driver is a maniac.
 

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First off, the media has wayyyy manipulated this story. Look at the titles in the media "mob of bikers" "demon bikers" speed demons" etc. I am a member of mid south sport riders and we do a lot of bad stuff sure, but we always try to wave to cagers when we zip around them on 2 lane roads etc. Now, those guys were riding like azzhats however, hitting one, then running over multiple bikes and fleeing the scene then doing the same thing a few more times isnt justified in any way shape or form. Ive had cagers try to murder or maim me multiple times just because i am running a few mph over the speed limit, changed lanes too quickly or touched a knee down in a corner. i deserve a ticket every now and then sure, but not to be murdered with a 2 ton vehicle.

If a mob (and the video demonstrates that they WERE a MOB) of bikers use large number of bikes to put me and mine in danger, I WILL use my vehicle to defend myself and to flee. I will be calling 911 and trying to get to the cops. If one of these bikers died or was paralyzed as a result of my defending myself, so be it. THEIR choice.

I can't believe anyone is defending this MOB of THUGS.

Moving on.


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well go for a ride and wait till a cager tries to kill you. All SUV maniac had to do was slow down and they wouldve got bored in about .2 seconds and kept going. Plus he hit other riders who were nearby. The guy he paralyzed is 32 years old and has two kids.
 

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I just love this lynch-mob mentality the day after the incident was reported.

Similarly, the day after the story broke nationally does anyone remember the racist, black-hating, White-Hispanic guy in Florida who killed an innocent, cherub-faced unarmed youth returning from choir practice, I mean a stop and rob? In the end the facts were exactly like they were initially reported, right?

Sheesh. Relax. The facts will come out.
 
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i don't think the bikers did anything right here but breaking a few traffic laws does not mean you deserve to get run over by a land rover is all I'm trying to say.
 

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we don't know what happened before that. even if someone brake checks you, you're not allowed to run them over (last time i checked anyway)

No; but when the rest of the MOB begins attacking the man and his family......... I drive a F350 dully 4X4 and carry a .45 if a bike MOB ever attacks me, well I won't be dodging any bikes/bikers getting out of there!
 

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Read a latest update to this story here:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/01/nypd-suspects-sought-in-attack-on-suv-driver/

I'm absolutely appalled at the responses online and in this thread.

Let me make this very clear, the bikers were not mob or gang related, they were people who ride bikes from every neck of the woods from touring to sports. An innocent man was paralyzed for life attempting to help after the SUV rear ended a biker.

There's plenty of blame to go around here both to the SUV driver and many of the bikers. I'd hope the SUV driver would be charged, he didn't need to be so reckless by plowing people indiscriminately. The bikers who harassed, followed and attacked the SUV driver were acting unlawfully as well. There's a point where the victim can become the assailant.

Also, clearly many don't know what the bikers were doing, so I'll explain. The point of slowing down and stopping traffic was to clear the road ahead in order to perform bike tricks. Clearly this is a lacking fact which many are ignorant of in this situation.

I'm also seeing, "The driver should've been armed." Even if the incident happened in Pennsylvania, I'd like to see a person win a case shooting another from within a vehicle. You see road rage cases all the time where a firearm is used, the person who fires the gun is charged and convicted. Clearly the wife and child were not in danger, as you can even see in the vehicle the bikers only focused on the driver who unlawfully plowed people and vehicles indiscriminately.

Let me just say this, even if the driver isn't charged, the people who were injured will sue the driver in to oblivion for injuries obtained from the impact.
 
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FYI, the guy who was hit is paralyzed now. He had gone to help the first rider who was rear ended actually. From the video i watched, it appears the SUV driver and the rider had words while he was passing the SUV, he moved in front of him and looked over his shoulder. He never hit the brakes as you can see from his brake light. For those who ride sportbikes, you know rolling off the throttle can cut speed quickly, he is looking over his shoulder and may or may not have meant to do it. Even if he did, brake checking someone one doesnt mean you can rear end them on purpose or run over other riders nearby. The SUV driver is a maniac.


No but brake checking on a bike with minimal separation to a large vehicle means it is virtually inevitable.
 

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Yes, I must ride a bike to know that running people over is bad. Been around long enough to know that even squids just don't "brake check" an SUV with no stopping power. And not even squids take on an SUV in the middle of a street for no reason. As we see the SUV wins every time.... Until. Traffic.
You need to be around longer then, I've both witnessed and been the recipient of a "brake check" by a motorcyclist. He depended not only upon being able to brake quicker than my van but being able to accelerate more quickly than I after the incident.

Unfortunately, he couldn't out accelerate photons and his actions, his license plate and the 5 minutes of video previous (which proved that I was in no way guilty of being an instigator of the actions) went to the Louisiana State Police. And yep, he was cited, and convicted.
 

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You need to be around longer then, I've both witnessed and been the recipient of a "brake check" by a motorcyclist. He depended not only upon being able to brake quicker than my van but being able to accelerate more quickly than I after the incident.

Unfortunately, he couldn't out accelerate photons and his actions, his license plate and the 5 minutes of video previous (which proved that I was in no way guilty of being an instigator of the actions) went to the Louisiana State Police. And yep, he was cited, and convicted.

Yah, thanks for proving my point.

from link above:
Mejia-Mieses said her husband got off his bike to help a biker who was hit in the initial collision.

“When all the bikers stopped, my husband got out, parked his bike to walk over to try to help his friend. He walked over towards the front of the vehicle when, at this point, I don’t know what happened the man was scared, the man just peeled off and ran over my husband,” she told WBZ-TV.

Mieses said her husband has injuries to his heart, lungs and ribs and that he is paralyzed from the waist down. The couple has two children, ages 15 and 9.

How can this be? According the the lefty cr@pfest clickbait NO ONE WAS HURT. Hmmm. Could the rest of the inflammatory rhetoric everyone fell for be pure bunk too? For instance, was the driver scared? Or did he do it on purpose? Was he checked for DIU? Whateves, run them all down after you gun them all down. Right? (sarcasm off)
 
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Are you? Nothing in the video at that time indicates any violence against the driver.


Complete fabrication. The SUV was already swarmed while they were still moving, before he hit the bike. Everyone just stopped after that. There was nowhere to go for one thing. The road was blocked. No one came zooming in to "surround" anyone or come in for the kill after traffic halted. Total bull.

Nail in the coffin. Confirmed. No doubt in my mind.

You are incapable of forming any rational thought. What is more likely to have happened in those 25 seconds? The SUV driver stops, the bikers come to him with open arms and olive branches before the SUV driver thinks to himself "hey, better just leave the scene and run people over with my wife and kid and all of these witnesses, you know, just for fun, just because"? or the bikers ganged up on him, threatened him, and started to hit/ bang on his windows(like they did later)?


FYI, the guy who was hit is paralyzed now. He had gone to help the first rider who was rear ended actually. From the video i watched, it appears the SUV driver and the rider had words while he was passing the SUV, he moved in front of him and looked over his shoulder. He never hit the brakes as you can see from his brake light. For those who ride sportbikes, you know rolling off the throttle can cut speed quickly, he is looking over his shoulder and may or may not have meant to do it. Even if he did, brake checking someone one doesnt mean you can rear end them on purpose or run over other riders nearby. The SUV driver is a maniac.

he didn't rear end the biker. Biker slowed down into his front bumper

Let me make this very clear, the bikers were not mob or gang related, they were people who ride bikes from every neck of the woods from touring to sports. An innocent man was paralyzed for life attempting to help after the SUV rear ended a biker.

There's plenty of blame to go around here both to the SUV driver and many of the bikers. I'd hope the SUV driver would be charged, he didn't need to be so reckless by plowing people indiscriminately. The bikers who harassed, followed and attacked the SUV driver were acting unlawfully as well. There's a point where the victim can become the assailant.

Also, clearly many don't know what the bikers were doing, so I'll explain. The point of slowing down and stopping traffic was to clear the road ahead in order to perform bike tricks. Clearly this is a lacking fact which many are ignorant of in this situation.

I'm also seeing, "The driver should've been armed." Even if the incident happened in Pennsylvania, I'd like to see a person win a case shooting another from within a vehicle. You see road rage cases all the time where a firearm is used, the person who fires the gun is charged and convicted. Clearly the wife and child were not in danger, as you can even see in the vehicle the bikers only focused on the driver who unlawfully plowed people and vehicles indiscriminately.

to the bolded: lmao. Just another case of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes"

To the driver being armed: I keep my arms to stop threats. After trying to escape in my vic, when the guy bashed in my window with his helmet, he would have been met with the business end of my sidearm. I'd like to think that would have stopped the attack. If not, sending lead downrange is the last option which I am sure would have stopped the attack.
 

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Slowing traffic for stunting is not legal. Further stunt riding on public streets is also not legal.

First infraction is impeding traffic. Second reckless driving. So the bikers no matter how nice of people were already breaking the law. These laws are in place for a reason as when you interrupt the flow of traffic you have accidents.

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