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Milwaukee Tea Party this Saturday September 19th

GlockMeisterG21

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J.Gleason wrote:
hugh jarmis wrote:
I have no problem that he has a man-crush on Mark Todd who's only freedom-supporting position is the 2nd Amendment.

The world according to Hugh: If you can't get the person to believe your BS then tell everyone he is Gay. ( Even though you claim to support gay Rights) By the way What about your "Man Crush" on Walker?
Well J, next time perhaps you need to look up a word you don't understand. Here's a little help.

1. Man Crush

When a straight man has a "crush" on another man, not sexual but kind of idolizing him.

hugh jarmis wrote:[/b]
I have no problem that James starts multiple posts on the exact same event trying to drum up supportcheerleading for Mark Todd.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum57/30548.html

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum57/31594.html

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum57/31608.html
Everything else aside Hugh defiantly have a point with this one. I don't know about the rest of you but it's getting annoying real fast.
 

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hugh jarmis wrote:
I do tend to side with the single-issue voters even though I am not one; as the lack of a 2nd Amendment (or the guts to exercise it) makes all other rights impossible to obtain.
I think thats part of the problem. If I want someone to support the rights that I think are important (which is actually all of them) then I MUST be willing to support the rights others think are important.

Its the only way. Single issue voters got us into the problem we are in today. People were willing to throw their vote behind a candidate that promised them their "pet issue" and left the rest of our rights scattered on the side of the road.

If I want 2 gay guys living in the 3rd Ward to support my uninfringed right to keep and bear arms, I HAVE to support their right to equality as far as our government is concerned for their 'partner' status. (that doesn't mean I think they should get handouts from the government, I think in the eyes of the government all people are equal)

In my opinion if people really want to advance gun rights, they will recognize that they should advance all rights. Freedom breeds freedom. Standing up for your neighbors rights is standing up for your own.

Cherry picking the rights to support brands you a hypocrite and will just cause others to feel justified in cherry-picking the rights they choose to support. The last 70 or 80 years of electoral process in this country has demonstrated as such.
This thread should be locked and if the fight over issues or how many people were at the tea party, about Walker or friggin' OPRAH should continue, it should be in a new thread.
Well, first, I'm sure the moderators will take your comment into consideration. I'm sure that in your 4 posts here they will appreciate your suggestions about how the forum should be run and how to moderate threads.

I also think discussion of the thousands of people who were at the tea party is perfectly applicable to THIS thread which I started about the tea party.

As for issues front and center at the tea-party. Equally valid in a thread about the tea party.

Lastly... As far as internet forums go, most topics evolve in different directions from the original. This particular tea party is over. What is left but to talk about it, and hash out the very topics that the tea party was all about?

Once again, I agree 100%. Freedom is for all, or none.

Thread should stay open, because I still don't even understand what all the tea party stuff is about. I do not trust the story of it all that is given on the news...
 

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I agree, the thread should stay open. That way the Hugh Train can keep rolling and all of his little cult members can tag along with him.

The thing I find absolutely hilarious is the way Glockmeister took the time to look up Man Crush.

Yes, I know what the definition is. However that is not how Hugh meant the use of the word. So your "Man Crush" on Hugh is apparent. Maybe that's why he likes you so much.

He was suggesting that I am a Homosexual, because I support Todd. There is no doubt that I support Todd. However, the homosexual thing isn't for me. I have a wife and kids and plan on keeping it that way. Besides I do have morals.

It could not have been taken any other way as I do not idolize anyone. Except God of course.

It is just odd that he makes such reference when he claims to support gay rights.

I am beginning to see the road more clearly from the trees. This is clearly not a forum for Gun Rights, but a forum for "Gay" gun rights. Either way, it's Ok I suppose.

I am sure I am not the only one who has been misled here.

The fact of the matter is, if any of your really and truly supported any rights at all, you would have given Todd half a chance to address your concerns. He believes strongly and passionately about the issues.

There is no ambition for changing the laws here other than the few who may actually be filing or have filed suit. As well as a few like Brass magnet who are actually taking the time to write the legislators of this state and Doug who probably has these laws tattooed on the inside of his eyelids, he knows them that well.

Other than that coming on here and bragging about how much money you spend on fire arms and letting everyone know that you will be there to show support as long as it isn't on a day when you are basking in the sunlight on your boat, keeping up that even tan so you can impress your minions.

And please, don't jump up and say that you are all involved in those suits because their attorney isn't going to share that info openly with you because he can't legally.

Not with out risking the chance of losing his license to practice.

Poking me with a stick and calling me names because I support Mark Todd is hypocritical when you are all doing the same for fast talking Walker.

You speak of being such a staunch advocate of civil rights but you object to a persons right to choose. And if they don't choose who you want them to choose, then you will chastise them and bully them until they do.

You have now went from arguing the cause of gun rights, to bullying anyone who disagrees with anything you say.

Your new forum user name should be shughperman!!! That way you can stand around and flex and impress your minions, because you don't impress me.

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Just in case you need the definition Glockmeister.
 

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J.Gleason:
I don't agree with everything you say but hey, that's what makes America great. I'll paraphrase a man better than me- "The solution to poor ideas is more ideas, not less" (yes, that's a total butchering of the actual phrase but I like it better). So speak your mind. If some guys on here want to circle jerk each other, they should feel free to do so. If you have something to say, I'll listen and decide for myself the validity and credibility of it.
 

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hugh jarmis wrote:
Kancho, welcome to the forum.

I can assure you that every time a guy comes around the board and starts talking nonsense out of his ass, I'm going to take issue with it.

If that amounts to bickering, I'm sorry. It beats the hell out of saying nothign and letting him spread mis-information around.

Its become clear to me that James is a self-interested paranoid delusional kook up in Chilton. 

I have no problem that he has a man-crush on Mark Todd who's only freedom-supporting position is the 2nd Amendment. 

I have no problem that James starts multiple posts on the exact same event trying to drum up support cheerleading for Mark Todd.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum57/30548.html

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum57/31594.html

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum57/31608.html

I don't even have a problem with the fact that James misleads people calling the Appleton event a: "This is an appreciation night for those who love and support the 2nd Amendment"

When the reality is, if its an "appreciation night" for those who love and support the 2nd amendment, WHY do you have to buy $25 tickets which goes to the "mark todd for governor" campaign?

Hey, I don't have a problem if James wants to 'spin' this fundraising event and leverage people's support of the 2nd amendment to raise money for a candidate for governor who only supports 1 freedom.

But what I do have, is a problem if after ALL that bs, james is gonna come the ONE thread I start about a FREE event where 15 or so speakers are coming to talk about the usurpation of power and perpetuation of socialism by our government and start misrepresenting facts.

I do have a problem with that.

I have a problem that james MISREPRESENTED that this was a Scott Walker event. IT WAS NOT.

I DO have a problem that james claims there were not thousands of people at the event.  THERE WERE THAT AND THEN SOME.

Yes, in the name of "not bickering" we could acquiese and let the liars have the stage.  But I think freedom is better served by standing up to liars and misinformation. 

Dittos, everything Hugh said.
 

J.Gleason

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gbu28 wrote:
J.Gleason:
I don't agree with everything you say but hey, that's what makes America great. I'll paraphrase a man better than me- "The solution to poor ideas is more ideas, not less" (yes, that's a total butchering of the actual phrase but I like it better). So speak your mind. If some guys on here want to circle jerk each other, they should feel free to do so. If you have something to say, I'll listen and decide for myself the validity and credibility of it.
Thank you for being open minded enough to understand.
 

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The fact of the matter is, if any of your really and truly supported any rights at all, you would have given Todd half a chance to address your concerns.
I invite Mark Todd to an online debate of the issues and his stated campaign positions with me.
 

J.Gleason

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hugh jarmis wrote:
The fact of the matter is, if any of your really and truly supported any rights at all, you would have given Todd half a chance to address your concerns.
I invite Mark Todd to an online debate of the issues and his stated campaign positions with me.
Why not with Scott Walker? Are you afraid of Walkers answers?
"You" Shughperman are not a candidate. Thank God!
 

hugh jarmis

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"You" Shughperman are not a candidate.
Must one be a candidate for elected office in order to ask questions of those running for elected office? That reeks of elitism to me.

I'm confident Mark Todd doesn't share your view and would be eager for the exposure and to share his views.
 

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J. Gleason, as I suggested in another thread:

I understand frustration occasionally boils over as it did yesterday. But its going to get really old really fast for everyone else on this forum if you're going to just mindlessly bash and bash every chance you get.

Its fine for me, I find it amusing, but doesn't make for good debate. I'm confident as a courtesy to fellow board members that I can limit my criticisms of you and your positions to factual matters and topics you post. Disagreement can still be informative. Perhaps you can do the same.
 
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