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Madison Open Carry Arrest. Paging Travis Yates

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J.Gleason wrote:
So basically, neither Brad or Travis have followed through with a lawsuit and more than likely will not.

What causes these people to turn the other cheek so easily?
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I don't think Travis would be in a position to follow through with a lawsuit until after his criminal case is disposed of. So its premature to assume he is 'turning the other cheek'

As for Brad Krause. Who knows....
 
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Now I'm no conspiracy theorist or anything like that, but I also don't believe in coincidence either, so take this analysis for what it is worth:

Krause: Somebody else calls non emergency number, asks if it's legal...

Yates: Somebody else calls non emergency number, asks if it's legal...

Krause: Arrested, very little if any information provided before, during, since.

Yates: Arrested, very little if any information provided before, during, since.

In the Yates case, that is the first question the caller asks, "is this the non-emergency number?"

I say the fix is in, both were staged, and we should let those who are gaming the system stand alone.
 
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I don't think its a coincidence that the average person on the street (or in this case, Brad Krause's neighbor and a shop worker at a place in Madison) would ask the exact same question.

I think the most common response you'll get from people who would call the police when they see a man with a gun doing NOTHING wrong would be to call a non-emergency number and ask if its legal.

That seems like the likely inquiry.

The lack of communication since the initial arrest however seems to follow the same pattern.

And again, I would never expect Travis to come communicate the details of his defense. But I am surprised that since Aug. 12th he hasn't come back to update us on the new hearing date or anything. All the information we've gotten is through news reports posted by members here.
 
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J.Gleason wrote:
So basically, neither Brad or Travis have followed through with a lawsuit and more than likely will not.

What causes these people to turn the other cheek so easily?
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Not being prepared with $1 million for bail and to retain the best 2A/civil rights lawyers for defense and 1983 runs all the way to SCOTUS?
 
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N6ATF wrote:
J.Gleason wrote:
So basically, neither Brad or Travis have followed through with a lawsuit and more than likely will not.

What causes these people to turn the other cheek so easily?
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Not being prepared with $1 million for bail and to retain the best 2A/civil rights lawyers for defense and 1983 runs all the way to SCOTUS?
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What?! $1 million?! LOL

The offenses that people are getting charged with in WI lately are Disorderly Conduct, or Obstruction for failure to ID. Both unwarented but the people aren't even being held. This isn't KaLiFoRnIa.;)
 
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Brass Magnet wrote:
N6ATF wrote:
J.Gleason wrote:
So basically, neither Brad or Travis have followed through with a lawsuit and more than likely will not.

What causes these people to turn the other cheek so easily?
Click to expand...
Not being prepared with $1 million for bail and to retain the best 2A/civil rights lawyers for defense and 1983 runs all the way to SCOTUS?
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What?! $1 million?! LOL

The offenses that people are getting charged with in WI lately are Disorderly Conduct, or Obstruction for failure to ID. Both unwarented but the people aren't even being held. This isn't KaLiFoRnIa.;)
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Notice the word I bolded?
 
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Brass Magnet wrote:
N6ATF wrote:
J.Gleason wrote:
So basically, neither Brad or Travis have followed through with a lawsuit and more than likely will not.

What causes these people to turn the other cheek so easily?
Click to expand...
Not being prepared with $1 million for bail and to retain the best 2A/civil rights lawyers for defense and 1983 runs all the way to SCOTUS?
Click to expand...

What?! $1 million?! LOL

The offenses that people are getting charged with in WI lately are Disorderly Conduct, or Obstruction for failure to ID. Both unwarented but the people aren't even being held. This isn't KaLiFoRnIa.;)
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Might not be as bad as Kali, yet, but we do share the same 1000 foot school zones.
 
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N6ATF wrote:
Brass Magnet wrote:
N6ATF wrote:
J.Gleason wrote:
So basically, neither Brad or Travis have followed through with a lawsuit and more than likely will not.

What causes these people to turn the other cheek so easily?
Click to expand...
Not being prepared with $1 million for bail and to retain the best 2A/civil rights lawyers for defense and 1983 runs all the way to SCOTUS?
Click to expand...

What?! $1 million?! LOL

The offenses that people are getting charged with in WI lately are Disorderly Conduct, or Obstruction for failure to ID. Both unwarented but the people aren't even being held. This isn't KaLiFoRnIa.;)
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Notice the word I bolded?
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I see it now.:D Remember though that if you are filing 1983 you've probably already had (better have had) the charges already dropped or thrown out. You are now doing something of your own free will. How much you pay for an attorney is up to you and you only need a civil rights lawyer; of which there are plenty. With the fee-shifting provisions just make sure you will probably win before plunking down the cash.
 
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Support The 2nd wrote:
Now I'm no conspiracy theorist or anything like that, but I also don't believe in coincidence either, so take this analysis for what it is worth:

Krause: Somebody else calls non emergency number, asks if it's legal...

Yates: Somebody else calls non emergency number, asks if it's legal...

Krause: Arrested, very little if any information provided before, during, since.

Yates: Arrested, very little if any information provided before, during, since.

In the Yates case, that is the first question the caller asks, "is this the non-emergency number?"

I say the fix is in, both were staged, and we should let those who are gaming the system stand alone.
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"Gaming the system" is how the system works. The Miller case that the appellate courts used for 75 years to infringe on the 2nd Amendment is a classic case of "gaming the system".
 
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As pointed out, I don't think an ordinance violation is criminal in nature.

hugh jarmis wrote:
I don't think Travis would be in a position to follow through with a lawsuit until after his criminal case is disposed of. So its premature to assume he is 'turning the other cheek'

As for Brad Krause. Who knows....
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Today's English Lesson - Ignore if this offends you but such errors can negatively impact the writer's credibility.

lose/loses - to not win loose/looses - to untighten, to let go

advice - a suggestion on what to do advise - to give advice

counsel - to give advice, a lawyer council - a govenment body

Also -

Van Hollen = AG Van Halen = rock band
 
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^^^^^^^^

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot........ Seriously!!??

I had to go back a few pages to even finda mistake. And it looks like you are quoting hugh as making it when I don't think it was him. As if this wasn't a serious waste of time anyway.
Oh; whoops, I missed the "ignore this if it offends you" part.:quirky
 
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Ok, now that grammar school is over, the questions still remain:

Why is the city pushing this even after the AG said don't?

When is the actual court date?

And most important, why isn't the AG going after the city (investigation or whatever)? After all, he (AG) either stands behind his memo or he is useless, I vote the latter.

So looks like it is time to find a new AG candidate!
 
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GlockMeisterG21 wrote:
apierce918 wrote:
i can honestly say i have never heard "looses" used in a sentence
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I would agree with you there. Likely because "looses" is not a word.
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If you agree that "loose" can be a verb (e.g. John loosed the horses. = John let the horses loose), then "looses" would be the third person singular. He looses half the herd when the rainy season comes. Not common, I'll grant you but certainly is different than "lose" (to misplace, be deprived of). I apologize if the wrong person was flagged. I am interested in improving the quality of our discourse, not pointing fingers at individuals. You must admit beginning a letter to the WI attorney general with "Dear Mr. Van Halen" won't help your cause.
 
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