I'll need your facebook password.

[ScottNH]

If an interviewer were to ask me that, I would ask him if his firm has contractual arrangements with their suppliers. How about with their customers? Do they violate those contracts? What happens if they do?
Then I would remind them that what they are asking of me is to violate my contract with Facebook and could cause me legal problems accordingly. Then I would ask them if they would cover my legal costs for their forcing me to violate my contract. All through these questions, I'd be watching them to see if (and how much) they squirm.

As others have questioned, would you REALLY want to work for a company that thinks so little of their vendors, customers, and employees as to do this to them?

Thankfully, I have never (nor will) have a Facebook page for the simple reason that Facebook's own mercurial privacy policies give me the willies!

As has been stated, it's easy for an employer to get around this. They don't have to ask for your password, thereby "violating your contract" with FB. Easy scenario:

"Hi. Here's a computer. Log into your FB account for me. Thanks. Now slide over just a bit so I can get a better look."

 

[wrightme]

As has been stated, it's easy for an employer to get around this. They don't have to ask for your password, thereby "violating your contract" with FB. Easy scenario:

"Hi. Here's a computer. Log into your FB account for me. Thanks. Now slide over just a bit so I can get a better look."

Actually, in the IT security world, letting anyone else use your login account on an IT asset can be grounds for disciplinary action, up to termination.

 

[ScottNH]

Actually, in the IT security world, letting anyone else use your login account on an IT asset can be grounds for disciplinary action, up to termination.

Again, they're not taking your password or using your login. They're sitting next to you when you login.

And, again, this is not some hypothetical discussion. This is happening now. Specious arguments about FB TOS or "my dog ate my FB account" won't cut it.

 

[Grapeshot]

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..............................:uhoh:................................:lol:

 

[wrightme]

Again, they're not taking your password or using your login. They're sitting next to you when you login.

And, again, this is not some hypothetical discussion. This is happening now. Specious arguments about FB TOS or "my dog ate my FB account" won't cut it.

I KNOW it is happening now.

FB ToS isn't a specious argument.

Shoulder surfing is also a no-no in the IT security realm.

A prospective employee won't have an account on the computer, the interviewer will. HE/SHE let someone else use their login.

Note the thread title: "I'll need your facebook password."

I haven't said I would say "my dog ate my FB account" or anything else. Lying in an interview is frowned upon. Others made that their idea, not me.

 

[OC for ME]

Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too. - Judge Smails

There is work out there.

 

[Herr Heckler Koch]

http://www.aclu.org/blog/technology...ok-password-should-be-none-your-boss-business

http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/...icants-facebook-passwords?chromedomain=usnews

 

[GhostOfJefferson]

If I know a possible future employer will require access to my facebook account, that I do not have, I should generate a facebook account. Interesting.

Then again, not having a facebook account these days may be an indication to a future employer that I may be anti-social. Interesting.

Strange really, because I consider FB "social life" to be anti-social. Sitting at home, never seeing another human being in real life, drinking your beer, staring at a screen. Wee.

Don't get me wrong, I know what you mean, I just find perceptions amusing sometimes.

 

[Contrarian]

FB info

Quote Originally Posted by ScottNH View Post
As has been stated, it's easy for an employer to get around this. They don't have to ask for your password, thereby "violating your contract" with FB. Easy scenario:

"Hi. Here's a computer. Log into your FB account for me. Thanks. Now slide over just a bit so I can get a better look."

And who is to say that they aren't running a keylogger program to 'review' at a later date?

If it comes down to refusing to give up your p/w, you may have shot this interview in the,er, foot.

 

[OC for ME]

Strange really, because I consider FB "social life" to be anti-social. Sitting at home, never seeing another human being in real life, drinking your beer, staring at a screen. Wee.

Don't get me wrong, I know what you mean, I just find perceptions amusing sometimes.

facebook is anti-social, social behavior. Folks I know who are 'hooked', as in the drug addicted hooked, get a little put-off and some even upset, that I do not have a facebook account. I point to their $600 iPhone or equivalent and ask if the voice part of their 'phone' works? Some of the responses I receive may surprise you.

The one I liked the best was "sure it does, but I never use it, I wish I could buy a iPhone that did not have a voice capability and save some money on the price of the phone."

 

[kurt555gs]

If a potential employer asked me for my Facebook password, the first response that comes to my mind would be: ************************

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[ScottNH]

If a potential employer asked me for my Facebook password, the first response that comes to my mind would be: ************************************

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* Carthago delenda est *

As I said before, it you don't want/need the job, there are many clever and witty things you can say as you self-immolate in the interview. If you do want/need the job, there are far fewer.

 

[Herr Heckler Koch]

As I said before, it you don't want/need the job, there are many clever and witty things you can say as you self-immolate in the interview. If you do want/need the job, there are far fewer.

Remember that many (particularly here on OCDO) consider high school graduation complete qualification for their dream job and that we that spent many years preparing for a career are one-percenter elites. I had one employer from the beginning of my career until I retired 26 years later. I spent a good bit of time at PNS and money in Portsmouth.

 

[MKEgal]

If an interviewer were to ask me that, I would ask him if his firm has contractual arrangements with their suppliers. How about with their customers? Do they violate those contracts? What happens if they do?

You just gave me a flash of brilliance...
This whole thing is not about prying into the private lives of prospective employees,
it's to see who holds to a contract, their values, & can keep their mouth shut in the face of pressure.
THOSE are the people who get hired because the company knows they won't divulge company secrets.

So when asked to give up your password, say: "No thanks, I want this job. I know that if I show myself to have no regard for the law, contractual obligations, or morals the company wouldn't want to hire me, and by giving my password I'd be doing all 3. Besides, would you want to work with someone who can be pressured to divulge company secrets?"

Though the argument about it being an end run around a company not being allowed to ask certain information is a good one too. "I'll think about letting you look at my account as soon as I've removed all information pertaining to things it's illegal for the company to ask during an interview, such as religion, children, sexuality, etc.."

The ACLU is getting involved, so this practice might be quashed quickly.
They do have their uses.

Basically, why would you give any random stranger (and that's what the interviewer is) access to your private life? Would you hand over a house key & let him/her drop by whenever it's convenient for them, to rummage through your mail, photo albums, bookshelf...?

 

[sawah]

You just gave me a flash of brilliance...
This whole thing is not about prying into the private lives of prospective employees,
it's to see who holds to a contract, their values, & can keep their mouth shut in the face of pressure.
THOSE are the people who get hired because the company knows they won't divulge company secrets.

So when asked to give up your password, say: "No thanks, I want this job. I know that if I show myself to have no regard for the law, contractual obligations, or morals the company wouldn't want to hire me, and by giving my password I'd be doing all 3. Besides, would you want to work with someone who can be pressured to divulge company secrets?"

Though the argument about it being an end run around a company not being allowed to ask certain information is a good one too. "I'll think about letting you look at my account as soon as I've removed all information pertaining to things it's illegal for the company to ask during an interview, such as religion, children, sexuality, etc.."

That's a brilliant cogitation and I agree it might be part of the underlying strategy of the company. Much like when one of the alphabet agencies does a limited hang-out or divulges 'secret' info and then back tracks it to the source. BUT, that might be giving the company more credit than it deserves. Still hard to see how they could argue with your reply.

 

[Steeler-gal]

Facebook is Chiming in on the Issue

Facebook itself has now weighed in on how completely inappropriate this
practice is:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...ur-passwords-and-your-privacy/326598317390057

Since soliciting/using someone else's login information on Facebook is a
violation of Facebook's TOS, not only do you open yourself up to all kinds
of discrimination-related liability by doing this, but you also put your
entire company in violation of Facebook's terms. They specifically mention
apps that give employers too much access to your information as a potential
shutdown target, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if a company's entire
public Facebook presence, to say nothing of individual hiring managers'
personal profiles, could be put in jeopardy for engaging in this practice.

 

[Herr Heckler Koch]

Facebook Policy Changes Raises Questions About Compliance with 2011 Consent Order

https://epic.org/2012/03/facebook-policy-changes-raises.html

http://ftc.gov/opa/2011/11/privacysettlement.shtm

Facebook Settles FTC Charges That It Deceived Consumers By Failing To Keep Privacy Promises

 

[Daylen]

Its easy, don't have a facebook page or don't have one that can be positively identified as yours to everyone, then deny having an account.

 

[Citizen]

SNIP So when asked to give up your password, say: "No thanks, I want this job. I know that if I show myself to have no regard for the law, contractual obligations, or morals the company wouldn't want to hire me, and by giving my password I'd be doing all 3. Besides, would you want to work with someone who can be pressured to divulge company secrets?"

Genius!! Once again the women out-class the guys on this forum.

Dammit.

 

[MAC702]