If a LE resigns from an organizational assignment...are they still employed?

[solus]

Every member of a police crowd-control unit in the US city of Portland has resigned after one of its officers was indicted on an assault charge.

Earlier this week, a grand jury decided to indict Portland police officer Corey Budworth with one count of fourth-degree assault - the first RTT member to face criminal prosecution stemming from the protests.

Video of the incident purportedly shows an officer using his baton to push a woman to the ground and then pushing the baton into her face, the New York Times reported.

50 Police Officers Step Down From a Crowd Control Unit in Portland (Published 2021)

The officers voted to leave the unit, known as the Rapid Response Team, hours after one of its members was charged with assaulting a woman at an Oregon protest in August.

www.nytimes.com

so 50 officers resign from a duty, allegedly a "VOLUNTARY" organizational duty...why are those officers still considered employed?

 

[deanf]

What are you driving at? It's common for large public safety agencies to have special units. Many such units are considered "plum" assignments, and come with certain privileges and usually extra pay. I see no reason why someone resigning from a special unit or assignment should terminate their compete employment.

 

[solus]

What are you driving at? It's common for large public safety agencies to have special units. Many such units are considered "plum" assignments, and come with certain privileges and usually extra pay. I see no reason why someone resigning from a special unit or assignment should terminate their compete employment.

And if the entire 50 members of a special unit within the sheriff's deputies, or fire department, or ems, or national guard, or armed forces, or suppose individuals within the federal agencies did the same thing...

sorry, whatever the rationale these members took the department's assignment, e.g., pay, recognition, ad nausea, they have committed insubordination and left a void in their agency 'To Serve & Protect' their community.

"IF" the team making up the Serving warrants resigned their posts, or perhaps those comprising the swat team protecting those serving/accomplishing "No knock" warrants...?

PORTLAND is in at will state and these individuals have given just cause for dismissal!

 

[deanf]

Kalm down Karen. More likely than not, the assignment was voluntary. Resigning from a voluntary assignment is not insubordination. And even if it was, the department's procedures for progressive discipline probably don't allow for dismissal for the first offense, depending on the circumstances. You should probably just delete your original post.

 

[solus]

Kalm down Karen. More likely than not, the assignment was voluntary. Resigning from a voluntary assignment is not insubordination. And even if it was, the department's procedures for progressive discipline probably don't allow for dismissal for the first offense, depending on the circumstances. You should probably just delete your original post.

Nice out of the blue behaviour shown - - childish degrading name calling...

 

[color of law]

Portland police officer indicted on assault charge over alleged use of force at George Floyd protest

A grand jury indicted a Portland, Oregon, police officer on an assault charge for what prosecutors allege was an "excessive and unlawful use of force" during a protest.

abcnews.go.com

The union said Budworth accidentally struck the woman, Teri Jacobs, in the head with his baton while trying to break up a riot.

Police very rarely accidently do anything wrong.

 

[solus]

union said so....roflmao...

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

VOLUNTARY"

That is the key word if one volunteers for extra duty.

Then one can stop volunteering.

Officers do it all the time for many reasons. What once was a good idea is no longer in a officers career.

Could be as simple has they got married had a child or any other reason they can't or doesn't want to put in the extra time or effort into the specially he volunteered for.

 

[mlawson]

Wouldn't that be the same thing as stepping down from foot patrol to pencil pushing desk jockey? Still employed, but changed 'departments'.

 

[color of law]

VOLUNTARY"

That is the key word if one volunteers for extra duty.

Then one can stop volunteering.

Officers do it all the time for many reasons. What once was a good idea is no longer in a officers career.

Could be as simple has they got married had a child or any other reason they can't or doesn't want to put in the extra time or effort into the specially he volunteered for.

Most of these "teams" or "special assignments" are voluntary. Employees comings and goings is not unusual from these voluntary positions for a prolifera of reasons. But when ALL the volunteers "quit" to protest a possible crime within their ranks, this could be easily viewed as insubornation, effecting public safety.

It is up to the agency to determine how they wish to deal with the problem. You or my opinion plus 5 dollars and 65 cents will get you a cup of coffee.

 

[American Patriot]

A volunteer is just that, "a volunteer," and cannot be forced to work, he/she is a volunteer. Privileges come with the position. Wife and I have been volunteers for the past 50 years. A volunteer is "Good for nothing."

 

[JTHunter2]

From what I have read on various feeds, the "response team" from which these officers resigned was a "voluntary team". They have not left the force and they will still be doing much the same work as the rapid response team did before. They just won't have access to the "special tools" (shields, chemicals, armor, etc.) they had as "the team".

 

[solus]

So your fellow tean officers stand in unity & resign signifying their "condoning" another team member's alleged violent & inappropriate action(s), as decided & pursued by the elected judicial system, towards a citizen!

kinda like the Floyd incident where three by-standing LEs personally witness a fellow officer mistreat, ending the suspect passing, all the while the suspect was held under LE's knee for approx 11 min, without stepping forward in any shape or way to stop the flagrant abuse and violation of agency policy(ies)!

 

[American Patriot]

9 Minutes and 29 Seconds

 

[solus]

9 Minutes and 29 Seconds

Not to be au contraire mon ami, per LA Times [AP], quote:
Minnesota prosecutors acknowledged Wednesday that a Minneapolis police officer had his knee on the neck of George Floyd for 7 minutes, 46 seconds — not the 8:46 that has become a symbol of police brutality — but said the one-minute error would have no impact on the criminal case against four officers. Unquote.

Prosecutors say officer had knee on George Floyd's neck for 7:46 rather than 8:46

The time span of 8 minutes, 46 seconds has become a symbol of police brutality for those protesting against the death of George Floyd.

www.latimes.com

 

[JTHunter2]

Solus - since when did facts matter to these divisive people?

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

Facts do not matter when the prosecution is political.

 

[solus]

"...district attorneys now have so much influence on grand juries that “by and large” they could get them to “indict a ham sandwich.” [Sol Wachtler 1985]

paul harvey's rest of the story...

The bizarre tale of the “indict a ham sandwich” judge who became a felon

Decades before Ferguson, a judge is judged harshly.

qz.com

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

The checks and balances of our system have been corrupted.

 

[American Patriot]

Not to be au contraire mon ami, per LA Times [AP], quote:
Minnesota prosecutors acknowledged Wednesday that a Minneapolis police officer had his knee on the neck of George Floyd for 7 minutes, 46 seconds — not the 8:46 that has become a symbol of police brutality — but said the one-minute error would have no impact on the criminal case against four officers. Unquote.

Prosecutors say officer had knee on George Floyd's neck for 7:46 rather than 8:46

The time span of 8 minutes, 46 seconds has become a symbol of police brutality for those protesting against the death of George Floyd.

www.latimes.com

Prosecutors say Derek Chauvin knelt on George Floyd for 9 minutes 29 seconds, longer than initially reported. (Published 2021)

The length of time that Mr. Chauvin was initially said to have knelt on Mr. Floyd was put on masks, shirts and signs and became a rallying cry for months at protests in Minneapolis and across the U.S.

www.nytimes.com

Prosecutors say Derek Chauvin knelt on George Floyd for 9 minutes 29 seconds, longer than initially reported.​

March 30, 2021, 10:24 a.m. ETMarch 30, 2021
March 30, 2021
By Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs

The length of time that Derek Chauvin was initially said to have knelt on George Floyd’s neck — eight minutes 46 seconds — was put on masks, shirts and signs and became a rallying cry for months at protests in Minneapolis and across the United States.

But the actual time was even longer — nine minutes 29 seconds — a prosecutor noted in court on Monday during the opening statements in the murder trial of Mr. Chauvin.

“The most important numbers you will hear in this trial are nine, two, nine,” Jerry W. Blackwell, one of the prosecutors, said in his opening statement. “What happened in those nine minutes and 29 seconds when Mr. Derek Chauvin was applying this excess force to the body of Mr. George Floyd.”

Shortly after Mr. Floyd’s death on May 25, prosecutors in Hennepin County indicated the length of time was eight minutes 46 seconds. Then, in June, they revised that time downward, to seven minutes 46 seconds,