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HI-Point 9mm Compact

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Well, like I said above, I have their 995 Carbine.

I've taken it out a couple of times, and it is spot-on.

Well, once you get the sights adjusted.

I would like to add some weight to it, though. It feels like I'm being baby-slapped in the cheek everytime I fire. :lol:
 

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[align=left]If the Hi-Point cost that much in the pawn shop, I hope it had a laser and/or flashlight, at least. Go to your local gun shop and see what they have in their used section. I just picked up a Steyr .40 at my local shop because it was too good a deal to pass up. You can get a prettier, less rattly handgun for a decent price a lot of the time.

That said, if Hi-Point is what you can afford, it's worth getting. It wouldn't hold up in competitive shooting or nything, but it's a decent gun for defensive purposes. Of course, I would recommend finding a used XD if you can. I love mine.
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openryan wrote:
After carefully reviewing the website hi-pointfirearms.com  -- I have decided that their warranty cannot be beat, it is transferred to each successive owner of the firearm, which is impressive.

Although I would not recommend this firearm to someone with a spending limit of 500 bucks, and it being not all that fun to look at.  With some of the reviews I have read on these guns, and if it is being used strictly for defensive purposes, I would have to say it would do the job.

Probably wouldn't buy one myself for a carry piece, but it might be fun to pick up one for the range, being that I can't hit the side of a hill with a .45, I still like to shoot them.

Heh, you know what it's been great for me for? :)

Learning to DETAIL strip a handgun down to every last bolt, spring, and thingy...

Learning to duracoat...

Learning to refinish...

Probably learning how to improve the trigger soon...

Learning to reload (They're +P+ rated, and, can take a HECK of a charge... In case I f-up...)

ETC... I think that's why I keep it around... I **KNOW**, if it croaks, even if I do it on purpose... they'll fix it :)

I wanna do some torture tests here soon :) Just because! :)
 

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Well, don't be so sure. As it was explained to me, the Hi-Point warrantee covers incidental use only. Non-factory adjustments to the gun and using +P reloads will void the warrantee, if I'm not mistaken. Just make sure you restore it to original condition if/when you ever have to ship it back. ;-/

-ljp
 

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CrashVector wrote:
You get what you pay for.

I see people on various gun forums all the time bragging about the Hi-Point pistols...about how reliable they are, etc etc

They're reliable because they're built with tolerances so loose that the gun feels like its going to rattle apart in your hand.

A gun with tolerances THAT loose simply cannot, and will not, be as accurate as a pistol with tighter tolerances.

For $300, you can EASILY find much better pistols. I bought my wife's Ruger P95 for $330 brand-spanking new....and The Ruger P95 is infinitely better than a Hi-Point.

Tolerances are important for target shooters, but paper plate accuracy at 50 feet is more than adequate for SD use. I would prefer something that went bang every time I pulled the trigger than to some expensive gun that was finicky. And a lot of the more expensive guns can be VERY finicky.

Ruger doesmake some very fine, and relatively inexpensive handguns. I have a Ruger 9mm pistol that had probably 10,000 rounds through it. Very reliable and does not seem to care at all what kind of ammo goes in it.

I have been tempted to buy one of the HiPoint carbines and a handgun just to shoot them for myself and see how they do. You could get a pairfor under $300.
 

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I haven't used a Hi-Point pistol before, but I've used their 'carbines'. Those things are extremely-reliable. I've never cleaned mine and it works every time. I don't know what to say about their pistols, but they should be fine.

I would, however, consider getting a CZ or Ruger. Hi-Point guns don't seem to be very hi quality in terms of build. The charging handle on my carbine broke off and other things are about to fall off or pretty loose. Seems to get metal fatigue fast (the metal seems to be some sort of 'stew' of random metals.. or so it seems)

Another reason to get a CZ or Ruger, is it doesn't look like some inbred redneck gun, like the Hi-Point does :p
 

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Dan....you can also get a NIB S&W Sigma in 9mm or .40 for under $300 with 2 mags and a hard case.
I have one of each and have found them to be very reliable...the .40 has had 2500+ rnds through it and the 9mm has had 4000+....still as accurate as ever....never a FTF
 

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I own a Hi-Point C9, and use it for concealed and open carry. It is not a bad gun. Personally, I think it is a nice looking gun, and even my girlfriend thinks it looks good. It is not too heavy to be a real pain in the ass on a belt/paddle holster, but on a shoulder holster it can feel kind of heavy, but unless you have 2 sets of lips (if you know what I mean), it shouldnt bother you much. It is a very reliable gun once you break it in. Make sure that the ammunition is seated correctly in the magazine. Tap the back of the mag against your hand a few times to make sure, especially with hollow points. The only real downside to this gun is the capacity (only 8 shots, unless you carry 1 in the chamber or make it look like a power drill with the extended mag), and the weight. However, the weight really isnt bad at all on a belt, and can even be a positive if you were ever forced to pistol whip somebody (it would easily crack a skull). I would definitely suggest one for the first time buyer, you could always sell it later, they hardly lose any value when sold as used. Also, like others have said, look for a shop, or somewhere on the internet that sells it cheaper. I got one shipped to an FFL, and transfered to me, into my hands and name, for only $156 total, off of the internet.

On a side note, about who responded that Hi-Points have no "class"... I didn't know that the point of carrying a gun was to be pretentious. Hi-Point pistols are bulky and heavy for a reason, because of the simple blow-back design. Sometimes a simple black dress is the classiest of all. :p
 

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cut_cutta wrote:
I own a Hi-Point C9...However, the weight really isnt bad at all on a belt, and can even be a positive if you were ever forced to pistol whip somebody (it would easily crack a skull).
Interesting recomendation...
:what:
Why on earth would you ever want to pistol whip somebody?
 

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You know. I never thought about pistol-whipping somebody. My Glock is too light for that....

/me goes and tries to figure out a way to stick bayonet on Glock......
 

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Who knows what situation a good old-fashioned pistol whipping might come in handy. The better question is, why would you want to shoot somebody? Non-lethal force should be used if at all possible, in my opinion.
 

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cut_cutta wrote:
Who knows what situation a good old-fashioned pistol whipping might come in handy. The better question is, why would you want to shoot somebody? Non-lethal force should be used if at all possible, in my opinion.
me thinks you carry wrong tool............
 

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wet_willy wrote
me thinks you carry wrong tool............
Why would you say that? I would not hesitate to blow somebody's chest open if I felt it was necessary. But who knows, there may be a situation where massive blunt force trauma to the head might be sufficient enough, or a better option.

Imagine this: an attacker is RIGHT in your face, and you are drawing your gun. I think it would be better to draw at full speed, one handed, and crack the attacker in the head with a 2 lb hunk of metal (in a single motion, much more smoother with a cross draw), THEN shoot them after time has been bought (if even necessary, at that point).

This situation is especially relevant to those of us that carry without 1 in the chamber, or israeli style. In extremely close quarters combat, by the time it takes one to rack the slide or even disarm the safety, an attacker could easily stab you, shoot you, or even attempt to wrestle your own gun out of your hand(s). I think it would be much better to crack em the skull immediately after the draw, buy some time, then rack and blast. Practicing a faster draw would be the better option, but reality does not always present itself how one would like; sometimes 'fast' isn't 'fast enough'.

Also, what if you get too excited in the heat of the action, limp wrist on the recoil and the gun jams, or even worse, you are a complete failure as a man, and miss an attacker with all of your shots? 2 lbs of metal (which a c9 is basically, once loaded) with square corners and a nice grip to hold onto is a hell of a weapon unto itself.

These are just a few scenarios I could think of where pistol whipping would be a good idea. As a matter of practicality, however, all of these scenarios seem much more relevant to concealed carry, because open carry would most likely deter the assault to start with, but ya never know. It's best to be prepared for any situation.

By the way, I'm new here. Nice to converse with y'all.
 

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cut_cutta wrote:
wet_willy wrote
me thinks you carry wrong tool............
Why would you say that? I would not hesitate to blow somebody's chest open if I felt it was necessary. But who knows, there may be a situation where massive blunt force trauma to the head might be sufficient enough, or a better option.

Imagine this: an attacker is RIGHT in your face, and you are drawing your gun. I think it would be better to draw at full speed, one handed, and crack the attacker in the head with a 2 lb hunk of metal (in a single motion, much more smoother with a cross draw), THEN shoot them after time has been bought (if even necessary, at that point).

This situation is especially relevant to those of us that carry without 1 in the chamber, or israeli style. In extremely close quarters combat, by the time it takes one to rack the slide or even disarm the safety, an attacker could easily stab you, shoot you, or even attempt to wrestle your own gun out of your hand(s). I think it would be much better to crack em the skull immediately after the draw, buy some time, then rack and blast. Practicing a faster draw would be the better option, but reality does not always present itself how one would like; sometimes 'fast' isn't 'fast enough'.

Also, what if you get too excited in the heat of the action, limp wrist on the recoil and the gun jams, or even worse, you are a complete failure as a man, and miss an attacker with all of your shots? 2 lbs of metal (which a c9 is basically, once loaded) with square corners and a nice grip to hold onto is a hell of a weapon unto itself.

These are just a few scenarios I could think of where pistol whipping would be a good idea. As a matter of practicality, however, all of these scenarios seem much more relevant to concealed carry, because open carry would most likely deter the assault to start with, but ya never know. It's best to be prepared for any situation.

Why not a strike, open or closed hand, to the head/neck area? Or a kick to the groin or knees? You have a gun. That pretty much lets youstrike at will.

Putting your gun in such close proximity to the perp risks him grabbing it somehow, and then having it discharge.
 

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I agree with Hank. Also, you might not want to pistol whip someone for legal reasons. You could be charged with assault with a deadly weapon and all sorts of stuff. Only use firearms when you mean to kill somebody.
 

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It always amazes me what people pay for HP C9s. I got my HP .40 from Cal-Ranch for $120 out the door tax and all. They sell the c9s for$109 and if you catch them on sale $99. Maybe I should start selling them on the side lol.
 
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