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Handgun fired at Fond Du Lac gunshow TODAY

Mlutz

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"Mueller said people attending a gun show should be able to assume that none of the weapons in the building are loaded."

Good to know... eye roll...
 

comp45acp

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There are "weapons" that are brought to gun shows that are to be shown, traded, sold, etc that should be unloaded and then there are "weapons" that are brought to gun shows that are carried for personal defense and are never touched unless needed for their intended purpose. Hopefully that distinct and profound difference will be recognized by gun show promoters.
 

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They will have to make sure they have enough staff to stop anyone skipping the line. Thank God no one was hurt or killed.
 

Terkeytoes

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"Mueller said people attending a gun show should be able to assume that none of the weapons in the building are loaded."

Good to know... eye roll...

This guy, for being a ranking officer, is pretty stupid for saying this. Everyone knows that you treat every gun as if its loaded, why would you assume for any reason that a gun is unloaded? Second, how was it that easy for this gentleman to bypass the security in place to make sure the weapons were unloaded? If its that easy to do why even check for loaded weapons?
 

Interceptor_Knight

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There are "weapons" that are brought to gun shows that are to be shown, traded, sold, etc that should be unloaded and then there are "weapons" that are brought to gun shows that are carried for personal defense and are never touched unless needed for their intended purpose. Hopefully that distinct and profound difference will be recognized by gun show promoters.

Since some of those attending are not sharp enough to maintain the discipline in order to make this effective, gun show promotors make no distinction.
 

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I attend 15 - 20 gun shows a year. In our neck of the woods the person checking incoming firearms is usually (not always) a law enforcement officer. The drll is that the firearm is verified as unloaded and then the action is locked with a "quick tie". At a number of shows I see people that attempt to "sneak" their firearms past the checkpoint. Why some people will endanger other people's safety just to save 2 - 3 minutes of their precious time escapes me. At one show I stopped a person for trying to bypass the check-in process. Instead of being "kicked out" he was just told to get in line. Throughout the show I was type cast as the "snitch". Sometimes gun owners can be a strange lot indeed.
 

anmut

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I attend 15 - 20 gun shows a year. In our neck of the woods the person checking incoming firearms is usually (not always) a law enforcement officer. The drll is that the firearm is verified as unloaded and then the action is locked with a "quick tie". At a number of shows I see people that attempt to "sneak" their firearms past the checkpoint. Why some people will endanger other people's safety just to save 2 - 3 minutes of their precious time escapes me. At one show I stopped a person for trying to bypass the check-in process. Instead of being "kicked out" he was just told to get in line. Throughout the show I was type cast as the "snitch". Sometimes gun owners can be a strange lot indeed.

Well I think that some of us feel that we are responsible onto ourselves enough to check the firearm each time it's handled to see if it's loaded. Some of us feel that we don't need big brother double checking our homework. Personally I check the gun each time I pick it up (even if I've set it down and walked out of the room for five minutes) and each time I'm done firing it.

On that note - I would like to know how many times a gun has been found to be loaded at those check points? That raises another issue - if it was LEO checking firearms before they came in and one was found to be encased but loaded, isn't that breaking the law?
 

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On that note - I would like to know how many times a gun has been found to be loaded at those check points? That raises another issue - if it was LEO checking firearms before they came in and one was found to be encased but loaded, isn't that breaking the law?

I don't know how many times but I know that at the show I usually attend they have a big (about one gallon) of various ammon that has been found in unloaded weapons people have brought to the show. Just because someone walks in with a gun holstered does not mean that they know enough to keep it in the holster. For some reason when people get around a bunch of guns like at a gun show many seem to forget everything they have been taught about gun safety. I know You and I can be trusted at a gun show to be safe but I am not so sure about that other 9,998 idiots.
 
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