Ahhh, I think I see where your misunderstanding comes from.
MamaLiberty's statement was, and I quote:
MamaLiberty said:
There is NO possible way to legitimately claim a class is NRA without live fire, either basic pistol or first steps."
- emphasis is mine.
That statement is as false as me stating "There is NO possible way to legitimately claim a living thing in your house is related to you, either your dog, or your ficus plant." - it presents a false dilemma, which is a logical fallacy.
I offer the following in rebuttle,
1) The NRA offers classes.
2) One of the courses offered by the NRA is the
Home Firearm Safety Course
3) The syllabus of the NRA Home Firearm Safety Course states "
Short Description : Non-shooting course and teaches students the basic knowledge, skills, and to explain the attitude necessary for the safe handling and storage of firearms and ammunition in the home.
More Details: This is a four-hour course for safe gun handling that is conducted in the classroom only. Students are taught NRA’s three rules for safe gun handling; primary causes of firearms accidents; firearm parts; how to unload certain action types; ammunition components; cleaning; care; safe storage of firearms in the home; and the benefits of becoming an active participant in the shooting sports. Students will receive the NRA Home Firearm Safety handbook, NRA Gun Safety Rules brochure, Basic Firearm Training Program brochure, course completion certificate. (Lesson Plan 6-90, reprint 12-08).
Therefore:
The statement that there can be no possible way for a legitimate claim that a class is NRA without live fire is demonstrably incorrect.
I did not and do not dispute that NRA Basic Pistol or NRA First Steps require live fire, I am disputing that an NRA class that doesn't offer live fire is illegitimate and not an NRA class.
Had MamaLiberty posted "There is no way to legitimately claim that neither NRA Basic Pistol nor NRA First Steps requires live fire" she would have been correct and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Now, why is it
non sequitur?
Because life fire is Not a requirement to obtain an Arizona non-resident permit.
Which are:
N. An applicant shall demonstrate competence with a firearm through any of the following:
1. Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class that is available to the general public, that is offered by a law enforcement agency, a junior college, a college or a private or public institution, academy, organization or firearms training school and that is approved by the department of public safety or that uses instructors who are certified by the national rifle association.
2. Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Arizona game and fish department or a similar agency of another state.
3. Completion of any national rifle association firearms safety or training course.
4. Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class that is offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies or other divisions or subdivisions of law enforcement or security enforcement and that is approved by the department of public safety.
5. Evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States armed forces.
6. A valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.
7. Completion of any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualification to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties.
8. Completion of any other firearms safety or training course or class that is conducted by a department of public safety approved or national rifle association certified firearms instructor.