roscoe13
Campaign Veteran
C. M. Crockett Park
Yeah, except they charge admission for non-county residents....
Roscoe
C. M. Crockett Park
Does this apply to buildings within Fauquier's P&R system as well as open-air parks? Considering attending an event at a facility that is part of their Central Region and is located within the Town of Warrnenton. Event will likely be indoors at that facility.
Yes.
stay safe.
I don't believe that section violates preemption. Preemption covers carry and possession, but not discharge. Their sections on carry and possession do not include firearms.Thank you sir! I Got an email from the superindentent of the Eastern and Central regions of Fauquier's P&R, a Keith A. Meyerl, which included this:
Sec. 16-7. - Firearms, knives, weapons, fireworks and explosives.
(a)
It shall be unlawful for any person except a duly authorized law enforcement officer to have in his possession in any park any BB gun, air gun, slingshot, bow and arrow, or dart device, or to discharge any pistol, revolver, shotgun, BB gun, air gun, slingshot, bow and arrow or dart device or other weapon in which the propelling force is gunpowder, a spring or air.
and this:
(b)
Any violation of section 16-5 (permits for solicitors and vendors); section 16-6 (prohibited conduct); section 16-7 (firearms, knives, weapons, fireworks and explosives); or section 16-8 (vehicles) shall be punishable by a fine of not less than fifty dollars ($50.00), nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) or imprisonment for a term not exceeding thirty (30) days, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
Should I bother replying with information about preemption? Or just carry with the knowledge that this Sec. 16-7 is unenforceable?
I don't believe that section violates preemption. Preemption covers carry and possession, but not discharge. Their sections on carry and possession do not include firearms.
TFred
I don't believe that section violates preemption. Preemption covers carry and possession, but not discharge. Their sections on carry and possession do not include firearms.
TFred
Sec. 16-7. - Firearms, knives, weapons, fireworks and explosives.
(a)
It shall be unlawful for any person except a duly authorized law enforcement officer to have in his possession in any park any BB gun, air gun, slingshot, bow and arrow, or dart device, or to discharge any pistol, revolver, shotgun, BB gun, air gun, slingshot, bow and arrow or dart device or other weapon in which the propelling force is gunpowder, a spring or air.
Thank you sir! I Got an email from the superindentent of the Eastern and Central regions of Fauquier's P&R, a Keith A. Meyerl, which included this:
Sec. 16-7. - Firearms, knives, weapons, fireworks and explosives.
(a)
It shall be unlawful for any person except a duly authorized law enforcement officer to have in his possession in any park any BB gun, air gun, slingshot, bow and arrow, or dart device, or to discharge any pistol, revolver, shotgun, BB gun, air gun, slingshot, bow and arrow or dart device or other weapon in which the propelling force is gunpowder, a spring or air.
and this:
(b)
Any violation of section 16-5 (permits for solicitors and vendors); section 16-6 (prohibited conduct); section 16-7 (firearms, knives, weapons, fireworks and explosives); or section 16-8 (vehicles) shall be punishable by a fine of not less than fifty dollars ($50.00), nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) or imprisonment for a term not exceeding thirty (30) days, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
Should I bother replying with information about preemption? Or just carry with the knowledge that this Sec. 16-7 is unenforceable?
Red highlights.....
Edit: I read it again.... & see what you guys are talking about now.
Maybe but I think it's just poor wording.
English should use parentheses, like math.
It shall be unlawful for any person (except a duly authorized law enforcement officer) to (have in his possession in any park any (BB gun, air gun, slingshot, bow and arrow, or dart device)), or to (discharge any (pistol, revolver, shotgun, BB gun, air gun, slingshot, bow and arrow or dart device or other weapon in which the propelling force is gunpowder, a spring or air)).
See, when you break out the parts like that, it is easy to see the mistakes. This ordinance literally prohibits the discharge of any weapon, period. The qualifier "in any park" is missing from the discharge clause! Technically, that makes it in violation of the new air-gun law, and without a provision for self-defense, probably violates the Second Amendment, but I doubt that was anyone's intent.
TFred
As I read it, the ordinance says you may carry a firearm in any park, but you may not discharge it anywhere in the entire county, for any reason whatsoever. I do not believe that was the intent, but that is how the ordinance reads. So yes, I would agree, it needs to be completely rewritten.So.... if I understand this regulation correctly, I may carry a firearm in one of their parks but I may not fire it, even for self defense. Seems like this County regulation really needs a lot of work.