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Detained at the Doctor's

SCJeffro

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drfitz710 wrote:
maybe they will think twice about asking a law bidding american to leave with his defense weapon
Not likely, The reality is more like oh great they will probably post a "NO GUNS ALLOWED" sign now... As backwards as that sounds, that is how people REALLY think. The store I talked to in Bullhead City AZ (in another thread) posted their NO GUNS sign AFTER being held up at gun point... It was only after I contacted the manager and then the owner that I was finally able to show them the error in their thinking!

People immediately think..."OMG someone pulled a gun on me, if we would have had a sign that said NO GUNS that would not have happened." Obviously that is a horribly flawed train of thought but it is in fact the norm among non gun people... :?

"She pointed the gun to his head twice and pulled the trigger twice and it wouldn't go off," recalls Warengton
This is what gets me, half the time the BGs don't even know how to use the guns they have... THANK GOD!
 

drfitz710

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sad but true. i just cant get my mind around how some people think that if they get rid of guns crime and murder go down. look at chicago that should be proof that way of thinking is totallyass backwards. there gun ban has resulted in one of the highest crime and murder rates in the country. mcdonald vs. chicago must be over ruled by the supreme court this summer
 

DVC

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SCJeffro wrote:

This is what gets me, half the time the BGs don't even know how to use the guns they have... THANK GOD!
I was called as expert witness in an ADW case, to explain how the "expert shooter" BG could blow through an entire magazine with his Tupperware, missing his intended victim from about TEN FEET, while still acting with deadly intent.

His defense attorney first suggested that he had intended only to SCARE the victim, by brandishing a pistol which he thought was empty, then that it was an AD with a defective trigger (allowing the pistol, which was never found by the cops, to go full-auto), but the video clearly showed his trigger finger moving back and forth, and showed him chasing the clerk (former GF) around her counter. The attorney suggested that, since the BG had a "reputation of being an expert shooter," if he had really intended to harm her, there is no way that he could miss at that range.

It only took me two minutes to explain WHY he missed at that range -- he was holding the pistol movie-thug style, sideways, and pulling the pistol out of line with his target as he engaged in spray-and-pray.

BTW, the look on his face when he went Miller Time without hitting her was priceless!
 

YoZUpZ

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Mas49.56 wrote:
You don't even need a lawyer to report a HIPPA violation. http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/faq/index.html
That disclosure was no accident! I would be fired from my hospital in a heartbeat for doing that crap. ALL info in a patients chart is protected information.

He is 100% right. A couple days ago I went through HIPAA training (me and the wife volunteer at a Hospital and Cancer Center), they don't mess around.

Under the circumstances (violation was due to willful neglict), it is a minimum $10,000 fine and up to 1 year in prison.

If they determine that the violation was commited under false pretense (they gave the info to police, and lied saying that they told you to leave, and you did not), it is up to a $100,000 fine and 5 years in prison. If they do it for malicious harm (trying to get you arrested), it is up to a $250,000 fine and 10 years in prison.

These penalties are just the penalties from theAMA HIPAA violation, this does not include the criminal or civil penalties that you could take them to court over.

You could also file a complaint against the police officers/department/city for illegal search and seizure as well as illegal detainment/arrest. (Depending on what actually happened)

Here is more information that you can look at pertaining to the HIPAA violation penalties:

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/solutions-managing-your-practice/coding-billing-insurance/hipaahealth-insurance-portability-accountability-act/hipaa-violations-enforcement.shtml
 
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