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Continuing Second Amendment Advocacy Under CPC 26350

Felid`Maximus

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When looking through the text of AB144 as enrolled, do the definitions (such as the word "handgun") in 12001 apply I wonder since 26350 is not part of the same title? I'm thinking they still should.
 
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ConditionThree

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As evidenced by the off topic discussion as to whether LUCC is legal or not, instead of making it a practical protest event, am I also to assume that there are none interested in advancing this concept in the urban areas where this would be most useful?
 

Save Our State

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As evidenced by the off topic discussion as to whether LUCC is legal or not, instead of making it a practical protest event, am I also to assume that there are none interested in advancing this concept in the urban areas where this would be most useful?

I would do it, just because it's you, and you have always went out of your way to keep the dream alive. I'm just too damn poor to consider a new addition to the firearms locker right now. But....You know me, and I've always been a resourceful type, so I'll try and do a home-made one and at least give it a go.
 

Save Our State

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I would like to add that any numerably measurable event should include some that have empty or alternate items in their cases to keep the government honest. :D
 

camsoup

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This new law intends to silence California gunowners. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence believe they have won by the laws enactment. They believe they have suceeded in getting guns off main street. But, as we all know, this law does nothing of the sort.

While it regulates the possession of unloaded handguns, it does not impact long guns, loaded handguns, or handguns carried in a locked case.

What I propose is a practical alternative to UOC of handguns or long guns to cope with the new paradign of PC 26350 and to continue social gatherings just as they have been in the past with our handguns to illustrate a new point for our advesaries. That point is that anyone, almost anywhere might just have a gun with them-legally.

Instead of openly carrying a firearm, participants would be transporting their handguns to and from their motor vehicles in a secure locked container (LUCC) while enjoying the same venues they enjoyed before the law was enacted. While no one may actually 'see' a firearm, passing out literature promoting our remaining ability to own and transport handguns would still make it known that the new law disarmed no one. Post it on Facebook and invite the Bradys and LCAV and they can obsess about who has the big mean kitten killer.

Other benefits include;

*Events may be held almost anywhere- Since locked, cased transport is an exemption to 626.9 you could have your meetup next to a school.
*Since it isn't obvious that anyone is in possession of a firearm, the contrived probable cause to inspect for loaded condition in 12031 evaporates (Unless you disclose to the police that your container has a firearm in it.)
*You could use it as a 'shell game' with some participants having cased handguns, while others carry an empty container... or one that has the Constitution opened up to the Forth Amendment.
*It wouldnt be as necessary to have digital audio/video rolling the whole time. (Though, it would be needed if in the event police violated the 4th, and entertaining to engage the Bradys.)
* You dont need an event to justify your carry... and youre still just seconds from employing a loaded gun.
* You dont stir the animus of fellow gunowners.

Below is the locking container that I got to transport my pistol. It attaches at the belt just like a holster does.
http://bagmaster.com/cart/products/44/Belt Pistol Pack Large.htm
There are also fanny packs, handbags, attache' cases, day planners, and other locking containers that are secure enough to meet the exemption.

Carry on...


I have and will continue to carry in whatever form is legal to me...be that LOC, where allowed. UOC while going to or returning from any of my hunting expeditions, and possibly engaging in LGUOC (day trips to National parks seem like an excellent area to stretch my LGUOC legs). For the winter time my Mossberg 500 with a pistol grip under a long coat seems like a wonderful legal (barrels over 16" cant be considered concealed) idea!

I'm with you on the LUCC, the way I see it is, if I am walking directly from my vehicle to obtain a sandwhich, and then return directly to my vehicle from said sandwich shop I would be within my right to have an unloaded concealed handgun in a locked container on my person. Its legal to posses said firearm in the vehicle, its a legal reason to enter a sandwhich shop, I do not see how it wouldn't be legal to have said firearm on my person, rather than leave a firearm unattended in my vehicle.

Although in the end, I guess only time will tell if some LUCC cases start dropping into the legal pipeline, and we see which way things are interpreted by the judges.
 
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