Can police confiscate your video?

[twoskinsonemanns]

But it certainly is. This is where I have to explain again and again, what is is the Constitution. We as a nation are not going by what actually is but by whatever we are told simply is. Though I do have to thank you for finding yet another way of reenforcing the idea that states gun laws are almost totally void. They have no power, no right to be enforced and therefore we can and should make any and all efforts to defend against any crimes that the powers that be may try to inflict on us for daring to think for ourselves and exercise the rights that we have

This I wholly agree with. Nullification is one of the most powerful weapons a citizen has against tyranny. But i'm not going to agree with that link. The Supremacy clause used in tandem with the 14th makes it a slam dunk case. Anyone who can't accept the evidence before their eyes is choosing not to see it and saying 'I've made up my mind, don't confuse me with the facts'.

"They have no power..."
I don't really see you as arguing from the same base line understanding. Let's say the SCOTUS makes a ruling that the RKBA only applies to government employees. So the feds make a law banning civilian ownership. You refuse to give em up based on the laws having no power and you are murdered by the authorities as you resist confiscation. I don't see how you can say the laws have no power. And even though you, I and everyone on this site would disagree with that SCOTUS ruling that does not make it illegal.
What you're saying is any ruling on any part of the constitution that you disagree with is void... but it just isn't so.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

So now, are we arguing against the USSC's ruling regarding McDonald vs Chicago?

I am arguing incorporation is a BS doctrine.

 

[rightwinglibertarian]

"They have no power..."
I don't really see you as arguing from the same base line understanding. Let's say the SCOTUS makes a ruling that the RKBA only applies to government employees. So the feds make a law banning civilian ownership. You refuse to give em up based on the laws having no power and you are murdered by the authorities as you resist confiscation. I don't see how you can say the laws have no power. And even though you, I and everyone on this site would disagree with that SCOTUS ruling that does not make it illegal.
What you're saying is any ruling on any part of the constitution that you disagree with is void... but it just isn't so.

I'm saying any law in violation of the Constitution is void. And I hear you. You do have a point. However such actions if they would be implemented by the majority or at least a sizable minority would be impossible to quell. 10,000 people OCing in DC with no permit walking down the streets during a protest would not result in the police mowing them down in a hail of bullets. No they'd be safe. And the same can be said for the same thing in any city from DC to NYC to LA. I'm not saying I want revolution. This country is enough of a mess without that and the Bundy ranch proves running gun battles with feds in totally not needed. Just calm, controlled disobedience en masse.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

If the gov can ignore the Articles of Confederation in order to create the Constitution....

it stands to reason they can ignore the Constitution once it's created.

On a positive note.... 75% of Americans now view our government as being CORRUPT!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/185759/widespread-government-corruption.aspx

We're making progress. Maybe someday that # will hit 95%.

 

[twoskinsonemanns]

If the gov can ignore the Articles of Confederation in order to create the Constitution....

it stands to reason they can ignore the Constitution once it's created.

On a positive note.... 75% of Americans now view our government as being CORRUPT!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/185759/widespread-government-corruption.aspx

We're making progress. Maybe someday that # will hit 95%.

I'm not sure I would consider it progress. I would assume a good portion of those 75% still prop up that corrupt gov by playing the two party game.
Even if it were 100%. Gotta vote for the lesser of the two evils right? heh heh heh

 

[Dave_pro2a]

I'm not sure I would consider it progress. I would assume a good portion of those 75% still prop up that corrupt gov by playing the two party game.
Even if it were 100%. Gotta vote for the lesser of the two evils right? heh heh heh

That's progress too.

Maybe someday 100% of democrats will think republicans are corrupt.
And 100% of republicans will think democrats are corrupt.
Then we might make progress.

Oh wait, we're already... never mind. :/

 

[Grapeshot]

The lesser of two evils......or the greater of two evils. Will not opt out.

 

[OC for ME]

...

On a positive note.... 75% of Americans now view our government as being CORRUPT!

We're making progress. Maybe someday that # will hit 95%.

Well...

Full Definition of CORRUPT: transitive verb
1a : to change from good to bad in morals, manners, or actions; also : bribe
b : to degrade with unsound principles or moral values
2: rot, spoil
3: to subject (a person) to corruption of blood
4: to alter from the original or correct form or version <the file was corrupted>

intransitive verb
1a : to become tainted or rotten
b : to become morally debased
2: to cause disintegration or ruin

Or...

tyrannical: adjective ty·ran·ni·cal \tə-ˈra-ni-kəl, tī-\

: using power over people in a way that is cruel and unfair

Full Definition of TYRANNICAL: being or characteristic of a tyrant or tyranny : despotic <tyrannical rule> <a tyrannical ruler>

Wish that 75% would use a different word/term.

 

[Difdi]

ok . . . I use a camera and I post photos and videos on youtube and on my blog. What is the federal law that prevents them from seizing my camera, if any, if I may ask?

That would be the Privacy Protection Act of 1980.

https://epic.org/privacy/ppa/

It's more probable they won't wait for a warrant, will assert "officer safety" and throw you on the ground, cuff you, search you, grab your device and sit there with your face in the dust while they do their best to wipe.

Since throwing you to the ground is a breach of the peace, unlawfully seizing property while armed with a gun is a felony -- first degree robbery -- and evidence tampering is a gross misdemeanor, wouldn't it then follow that you could check your phone the moment it is returned to you, discover the missing video and make an immediate citizen's arrest?

They can confiscate the camera.

Um, no. They have the same authority to 'confiscate' property without lawful cause that you and I do -- the technical legal term for that is robbery.