Businesses that encourage oc/cc by employees

[sudden valley gunner]

I carry OC all the time on the job, I'm self employed though.

 

[WinchesterModel12]

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.56.065

(1) A person is guilty of theft of a motor vehicle if he or she commits theft of a motor vehicle.

(2) Theft of a motor vehicle is a class B felony.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.16.050
RCW 9A.16.050
Homicide — By other person — When justifiable.


Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:

(1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or

(2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he or she is.

The courts have ruled that taking of property without a court order is still theft.
Old guy I was friends with had sold a car to someone with a payment plan. He was told that he needed a court order to retrieve the property when the person stopped paying. The other part was before he could get a court order he had to have put a repo clause in the sale contract.

So even with a repo clause you still need a court order.

It is not justified to shoot somebody doing a repo on your vehicle, even if it is ruled that the tow truck driver was committing a felony, your lifewould not be at risk to justify a shooting.
Please reread the law, the "felony" would not be committed against you.

 

[Jeff Hayes]

It is not justified to shoot somebody doing a repo on your vehicle, even if it is ruled that the tow truck driver was committing a felony, your lifewould not be at risk to justify a shooting.
Please reread the law, the "felony" would not be committed against you.

I absolutely agree with you I was trying to convince Freedom1Man out of jail.

 

[amlevin]

It is not justified to shoot somebody doing a repo on your vehicle, even if it is ruled that the tow truck driver was committing a felony, your lifewould not be at risk to justify a shooting.

That's a rather broad statement. Some "Repo Men" can get rather violent and in some cases a person could genuinely feel that their life was in danger.

It's going to all depend on the circumstances.

Use the TV series of Operation Repo as an example. Someone stands in the path of the repo man saying "you're not taking my car". Someone like "Matt" takes the tow hook and starts to make a swinging move with it. At that point a reasonable person could conclude that the "hook" is a weapon and his life is in danger.

OK, so much of the show appears staged but in real life it happens. I had a friend long ago that repo'd cars in Seattle. He related a lot of incidents where Self Defense could have been employed against the repo man.

 

[Truckdriver1975]

I would love to find a trucking company that would allow me to carry. My company doesn't allow guns, pepper spray or knives with more than a 2 inch blade. If it's primary use is as a weapon it's not allowed. In the cab I have a can of wasp spray and a tire(skull) thumper. When I'm in the trailer unloading all I have is my flashlight. None of them would be much use against an armed thug but it's all I can get away with without risking my job.

 

[Jeff Hayes]

I would love to find a trucking company that would allow me to carry. My company doesn't allow guns, pepper spray or knives with more than a 2 inch blade. If it's primary use is as a weapon it's not allowed. In the cab I have a can of wasp spray and a tire(skull) thumper. When I'm in the trailer unloading all I have is my flashlight. None of them would be much use against an armed thug but it's all I can get away with without risking my job.

If I ever felt like I was going to be in danger my job would not be worth my possibly being harmed or killed, just saying.

 

[Metalhead47]

If I ever felt like I was going to be in danger my job would not be worth my possibly being harmed or killed, just saying.

Unfortunately in this economy, many people don't see that as a valid choice. A (relatively) quick death at the hands of an armed thug may be preferable to slow starvation on the street.

 

[Truckdriver1975]

If I ever felt like I was going to be in danger my job would not be worth my possibly being harmed or killed, just saying.

I've wrestled with the pros and cons of ignoring the policy. My top priority is my family. I don't want to get hurt or killed but I'm not willing to accept the consequences of getting caught with a gun on the company truck. I don't want to lose the ability to keep my wife and kids in a good neighborhood and school district.

 

[TheDavid]

I have a good amount of $ going to my familey should something like that happen to me. If I am someplace where I am not aloud to cary I have asked my familey to file a wrongful death sute agent the people responsible for takeing away some of my ability to defend my self. No much, but our "justice" system is based on retribution.

 

[John Hardin]

If I am someplace where I am not aloud to cary I have asked my familey to file a wrongful death sute agent the people responsible for takeing away some of my ability to defend my self. No much, but our "justice" system is based on retribution.

+1 for the concept, -1 for the lack of spell-checking.

 

[amzbrady]

I have a good amount of $ going to my familey should something like that happen to me. If I am someplace where I am not aloud to cary I have asked my familey to file a wrongful death sute agent the people responsible for takeing away some of my ability to defend my self. No much, but our "justice" system is based on retribution.

+1 for the concept, -1 for the lack of spell-checking.