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What about homeschooling? For/against? Gonna make it easier to do?

Good question. I am about public education(hence supporting public jobs and employees). For me public education helps a child to learn valuable social skills needed to survive in the real world. While I dont have any problems with a home schooled child, I feel a home schooled child doesn't get the interaction needed to be more socialized.

If your going to home school a child, I feel you need to be well educated your self, much like a Teacher, in order to best serve your child's needs.
 

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Good question. I am about public education(hence supporting public jobs and employees). For me public education helps a child to learn valuable social skills needed to survive in the real world. While I dont have any problems with a home schooled child, I feel a home schooled child doesn't get the interaction needed to be more socialized.

If your going to home school a child, I feel you need to be well educated your self, much like a Teacher, in order to best serve your child's needs.

From what I've read, including this issue, you look like you cater to the interests of the Average Florida Voter, but not me...

I don't think the State should be involved in the education process at all. The only reason that exposure to public school seems like a requirement, is that public education includes teaching hatred of anyone who stands out.

It's much like political faction alignment. Both major parties include at their roots hate-speech against 'the other guy' to prevent the Voters from realizing that they all still bleed red... Divide and conquer.

I have my son in Public School for the very reason you stated; the social experience. There sure isn't any educating going on. That's still up to me regardless... I know I could do a better job if he weren't being shipped off to be brainwashed with Institutionalist Statism for the better part of the day... any time I start in with Gentoo Linux or studying math/science on my own for a project I have, he is very interested and entirely blank...

When I was his age I was writing Polymorphic code by hand in Assembly. But I went to Private School where I was encouraged to think and explore.

I also understand that Public Jobs are the definition of Big Government. The more of those we wipe out, the better. The Government employs WAY too many people to do the many things it has no business doing. Those of us with real jobs cannot afford to keep paying for them. The ratio is roughly 4:6, or 4 out of 10 jobs is Government. Government jobs pay more, and have way better benefits. So cash-wise, it's about 6 out of 10 dollars. We cannot afford this. We should be keeping these benefits for ourselves, we are the ones earning them! How is it at all Right, Sane, or American that I bust my ass to pay for benefits of others that I don't get for myself? I'm not talking about Welfare, I'm talking about Health Benefits and Pensions for Government Employees who do nothing but attack me and take my money. 1 + 1 != 7. Real people with Real jobs can not afford all this Fluff. We can't carry the burden of this bloated, lazy elitism. There just aren't enough of us to pay for all this and still get by ourselves. Fire them and make them get a real job, they're leaches.
 
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"Government Employees who do nothing but attack me and take my money. " Thats a very negative way of thinking right there. Those government employees are also tax payers. They also work their butts off as you say. Honestly have you ever worked as a correctional officer, or a school teacher, state hospital employee? Ill await your answer on that, but to continue.

As far as education goes, I will agree that government should not influence the teachings. History for example is always written by the winner of the war. I left High school and all of my Teacher at Ed white had become well non caring. Maybe 1 or 2 of my teachers care about teaching me. Yes your right hatred is taught, but you the parents can and should stop it.

Yes Gov. Jobs have better benefits. Just remember those employees are tax payers also.
 

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From what I've read, including this issue, you look like you cater to the interests of the Average Florida Voter, but not me...

I don't think the State should be involved in the education process at all. The only reason that exposure to public school seems like a requirement, is that public education includes teaching hatred of anyone who stands out.

. Fire them and make them get a real job, they're leaches.


But Ixtow, don't you know the state makes the grass green and the sun come up in the morning? If it weren't for government schools, no one would know how to read or write or add. Without tax (theft) funded education, we would not have a well educated freedom loving electorate as we do now. Without government schools, could there have been a Gauss, or a Fermat? An Euler, or a Liebniz, or a Newton?....Oh wait...
 
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From what I've read, including this issue, you look like you cater to the interests of the Average Florida Voter, but not me...

I don't think the State should be involved in the education process at all. The only reason that exposure to public school seems like a requirement, is that public education includes teaching hatred of anyone who stands out.

It's much like political faction alignment. Both major parties include at their roots hate-speech against 'the other guy' to prevent the Voters from realizing that they all still bleed red... Divide and conquer.

I have my son in Public School for the very reason you stated; the social experience. There sure isn't any educating going on. That's still up to me regardless... I know I could do a better job if he weren't being shipped off to be brainwashed with Institutionalist Statism for the better part of the day... any time I start in with Gentoo Linux or studying math/science on my own for a project I have, he is very interested and entirely blank...

When I was his age I was writing Polymorphic code by hand in Assembly. But I went to Private School where I was encouraged to think and explore.

I also understand that Public Jobs are the definition of Big Government. The more of those we wipe out, the better. The Government employs WAY too many people to do the many things it has no business doing. Those of us with real jobs cannot afford to keep paying for them. The ratio is roughly 4:6, or 4 out of 10 jobs is Government. Government jobs pay more, and have way better benefits. So cash-wise, it's about 6 out of 10 dollars. We cannot afford this. We should be keeping these benefits for ourselves, we are the ones earning them! How is it at all Right, Sane, or American that I bust my ass to pay for benefits of others that I don't get for myself? I'm not talking about Welfare, I'm talking about Health Benefits and Pensions for Government Employees who do nothing but attack me and take my money. 1 + 1 != 7. Real people with Real jobs can not afford all this Fluff. We can't carry the burden of this bloated, lazy elitism. There just aren't enough of us to pay for all this and still get by ourselves. Fire them and make them get a real job, they're leaches.

But Ixtow, don't you know the state makes the grass green and the sun come up in the morning? If it weren't for government schools, no one would know how to read or write or add. Without tax (theft) funded education, we would not have a well educated freedom loving electorate as we do now. Without government schools, could there have been a Gauss, or a Fermat? An Euler, or a Liebniz, or a Newton?....Oh wait...

Just so I can make sure I understand where you guys are coming from. You guys are basically saying " To hell with Government/Public Jobs", right?
So no more children getting any education at all for those who cant afford a private school or even afford to home-school, right?
No more Military in case we get attacked, right?
No more officers to keep prisoners inside the fence, right?
NO more Officers to at least slow down the ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, right?
NO more state senators, right?
No more state representatives, right?
No more mayors, right?
NO more cops, right?
NO more city firefighters, right?
Just pretty much anarchy, hoping that just because we have a gun exposed on our hip, or an AR strapped to our back, that no criminal wont just shoot us 1st with our backs turned since there is no more control of any kind, Right?

Lets just say fire every one like you said. So when a fire breaks out, just call your neighbor to help you.
When your/a child ask you how something works, dont look it up on the net( it was created by Government by the way).
When a natural disaster occurs, dont ask for help from no one but your neighbor.
When your home gets robbed, please dont call the cops to investigate.

See where I am going with this. Every one takes alot of things for granted. If you take offense well I can't help that. I can't make every one happy. :question:
 
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See where I am going with this. Every one takes alot of things for granted. If you take offense well I can't help that. I can't make every one happy. :question:

It's a fallacy to say that all these services can't be provided by the market. Government provides essential services, but that doesn't mean that only the coercive power of the state can provide them. Taxation is theft, and there is no way around that fact. You can't opt out of the state. Obviously, we're now accustomed to things being done a certain way (the slave way) and we won't go from tyranny to freedom overnight, but I want people in government who will let us move in that direction.
 

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It's a fallacy to say that all these services can't be provided by the market. Government provides essential services, but that doesn't mean that only the coercive power of the state can provide them. Taxation is theft, and there is no way around that fact. You can't opt out of the state. Obviously, we're now accustomed to things being done a certain way (the slave way) and we won't go from tyranny to freedom overnight, but I want people in government who will let us move in that direction.

As I said before in my video, I will fight for Public employees and public jobs, constitutional rights, and small businesses. Every one has choice. I myself hate taxes as well. I welcome your opinions in how you can provide a structure similar to the military with all the same capabilities. Mind you the employees must be able to live on the wages yet not hurt the tax payers and minimum wage is not livable. Non of what I have said is rhetorical or incorrect reasoning.
 

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As I said before in my video, I will fight for Public employees and public jobs, constitutional rights, and small businesses. Every one has choice. I myself hate taxes as well. I welcome your opinions in how you can provide a structure similar to the military with all the same capabilities. Mind you the employees must be able to live on the wages yet not hurt the tax payers and minimum wage is not livable. Non of what I have said is rhetorical or incorrect reasoning.

I really don't have the answers. Just explaining my moral conviction that no purpose of government justifies depriving someone of their life liberty or property until they actually hurt someone else. Sometimes it's not always clear when somebody else is violated, but most of the time it is. Mere nonpayment of taxes, smoking crack, open carry of weapons, etc (you fill in the blank) should not be within the state's purview. More government jobs, or more benefits for existing government jobs, means more taxes. Taxation is organized theft, and I think theft is morally wrong.
 

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I really don't have the answers. Just explaining my moral conviction that no purpose of government justifies depriving someone of their life liberty or property until they actually hurt someone else. Sometimes it's not always clear when somebody else is violated, but most of the time it is. Mere nonpayment of taxes, smoking crack, open carry of weapons, etc (you fill in the blank) should not be within the state's purview. More government jobs, or more benefits for existing government jobs, means more taxes. Taxation is organized theft, and I think theft is morally wrong.

You are right in some ways yet are wrong in others. In order to change, people have to get involved. I want to do what the voters tell me to do, which I feel makes me very unique. It also make me unique due to the fact that I am not made of money. I work my arse off to make ends meet like every one else. I also work a public job. As a senator my "Public Job" that you dont like is to do what the voters tell me to do, to vote how they tell me to do, to fight what they want me to fight. Don't give up on your freedom. I want to fight for you, the legal registered voters of Florida. Just remember though, having a negative mind set will always work against one's self. I am here to make real change. You ask JOJO712 and J4L they have met me and know I mean what I say. I wont pull no punches. I wont fall to Big money Lobbists. I am here for THE PEOPLE of Florida. Nuff Said.
 

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Ixtow said:
Government Employees who do nothing but attack me and take my money.

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Thats a very negative way of thinking right there.

Yes it is. It's also factual. Pretending that it isn't is unproductive.

Negative facts need to be upgraded, not re-worded to sound less negative. It is 'negative' to get shot in the face. Saying to myself 'stop being such a negative-nancy' does not fix the problem.

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Those government employees are also tax payers.

What a great way to showcase the circular nature of it...

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They also work their butts off as you say.

But doing what? Enforcing laws who's only purpose is to fill up jails? Jails built to 'create jobs;' Well, now we need to create criminals to put in the jails!

Working hard at enforcing tyranny is not a good thing. There I go, being a negative-nancy by pointing out those pesky facts again... The Brits has some pretty good jobs before we started shooting back at them...

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Honestly have you ever worked as a correctional officer, or a school teacher, state hospital employee? I'll await your answer on that, but to continue.

Damn, you are one hell of a Floriduh Politician. You forget I've been dealing with that my entire life?

Being a tyrant, or one of the tyrant's pawns, does not make the job they do good. I don't cre if they pay taxes based on taxes based on taxes. It's irrelevant. The job they do is the issue. A job We the People desperately need them to stop doing. Their existence is the root of all of our nation's ailments.

Working hard, but at what task? Spreading State Power? Seizing more of it? Incarcerating people for doing things that were considered Rights and Freedoms only 50 years ago? It needs to be torn down, not glorified. These jobs are the problem. ...hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers...

Our Economy fails, and our society succumbs to violence, because we have no other function but to prey upon each other under the burden of these pressures.

Eliminate the burden.

As far as education goes, I will agree that government should not influence the teachings. History for example is always written by the winner of the war. I left High school and all of my Teacher at Ed white had become well non caring. Maybe 1 or 2 of my teachers care about teaching me. Yes your right hatred is taught, but you the parents can and should stop it.

We sort-of agree on something.

Yes Gov. Jobs have better benefits. Just remember those employees are tax payers also.

The irony of it... They draw pay and benefits from the tax pool, only to put a part of it right back in? And the jobs they do are what? Things horribly contrary to America and her Constitution. Should such a job exist? How do we get our Rights back back if we pay more and more of them to take them away?

Give them drastically above-grade pay and benefits that none of us lowly peasants can afford, for doing a job we really wish they would stop doing!

You cannot shrink Government if you refuse to shrink Government! What happens when a Company needs to shrink? It fires employees. when a division shows that it serves to use? Liquidate it, those jobs don't exist anymore. It's simple. If you want to get rid of Government intrusions, you have to get rid of the people it employs on our dime to do that intruding. There is nothing we need more desperately than this. Once done, the rest will improve naturally.

On another note, what will you do for sustainable building? Florida is one of the worst in the nation for outrageous building codes that requires sponsorship of industry. It hides behind "but the hurricanes!" as an excuse to execute some of the most outrageous housing tyrannies ever seen on planet earth, while superior and natural building techniques are outlawed for the sake of monstrous profits. The housing industry has reaped what it has sown as a result. We cannot afford a home without working 3 jobs. We have to get stupid mortgages to grease all the palms. The answers are often right under our feet, but are banned by a profiteering legislature that will not allow a Man to build his own home of superior materials. It forces him to pay exorbitant volumes of cash to special manufacturers for inferior designs and products. What say you?
 

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JSee where I am going with this. Every one takes alot of things for granted. If you take offense well I can't help that. I can't make every one happy. :question:

I see your rather sarcastic points. And I recognize that your target demographic is people who are too stupid to tie their own shoes without the government there to do it for them.

I am not your target demographic. Put me on a deserted island and I'll build a city by myself. I'd do it now, but damn it; laws against doing anything for yourself, laws against science, laws against math, laws against common-sense... Everywhere I turn, laws that place Government as the sole supplier, and sole beneficiary, of every effort I make. If I dare lift a finger, I am screwed.

These hoards of Government Employees to ensure I stay planted on my butt doing nothing; or else. I could move mountains if these laws weren't holding me back. I know I'm not the only one. We need to be controlled, says the Gov...
 

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You are right in some ways yet are wrong in others. In order to change, people have to get involved. I want to do what the voters tell me to do, which I feel makes me very unique.

I'm only playing devil's advocate halfway.

The Voters were taught to be sheeple by the government. They want huge government. They hate any kind of freedom, intellect, ingenuity, science, math, common-sense; all of which the public school system abhors because it would foster the opposite of what the government wants.

When the government controls the Education, it controls the Vote. the Ballot Box is a mere formality after that.

It is an end unto itself. Fail to educate, brainwash instead. Now the people are too stupid and lazy to do anything useful. Make laws banning usefulness. Force otherwise productive people into prison. You're left with a population that cannot exist without the nanny state, and the mere thought of common-sense, science, productivity, etc. gets you locked up.

Waht we need more than anything, is to strike the root of the problem. That root is, way too damn many government employees enforcing it's laws which should not exist.

But as you said, you intend to represent. For this I respect you. But, consider what you will be representing. Brainwashed idiots who demand bread and circuses, and the total destruction of anyone who knows well enough to learn from history. To represent Flordians, you have to vote against any and all freedom, abhor science and fact, and create artificial money faucets for your buddies that can be sustained only by hiding inflation with debt on the backs of the workers. Nope, they're not voters anymore... And they don't care. They want more Big Macs, SUVs and Wrestling... Math and common-sense be damned! I WANT!! GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE!

The problem with a representative government, once it seizes the educational system, is that it now represents it's own interests alone. If you want to accurately represent your constituents, you have to do the dumbest and most hopelessly destructive things that you can dream up. But no worries, they'll tell you what that is...

We don't 'need' all this crap. We're taught to believe that we do because it profits politicians for us to be so dumb.
 

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Have you ever thought why "public job's" are defined as such? Why are some "private jobs" dealing with the public? I think these definition's is very contradictory to all. See to me a "job that deals with the public" is a job like state troopers, mcdonalds, correction, hospitals, business that sell to the public like tattoo shops, at least that makes sense to me. "Private jobs" are jobs like call centers that dont see the public at all but only talk to them on the phone. I want to know what your common sense definition is on this subject. I dont want text book answers neither.
 

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Have you ever thought why "public job's" are defined as such? Why are some "private jobs" dealing with the public? I think these definition's is very contradictory to all. See to me a "job that deals with the public" is a job like state troopers, mcdonalds, correction, hospitals, business that sell to the public like tattoo shops, at least that makes sense to me. "Private jobs" are jobs like call centers that dont see the public at all but only talk to them on the phone. I want to know what your common sense definition is on this subject. I dont want text book answers neither.

So, by avoiding textbook answer you admit how useless textbooks are? That there is a great gulf between a textbook answer and one which is based on common-sense? Why are they different? Why is one in School and the other, not. :p

Today, Taxes are levied with little to no representation or approval from the Taxed, then spent willy-nilly.

The answer (which required definition from above): I define it by the source of the paycheck. It is a public job if the paycheck comes from Tax Money. It is paid for by the general public against their will and without their say. It is no different from the Royalty and the Peasants. The funds are forcibly extracted from the Public to pay for the waste and extravagance of the Politicians and their underlings. They perform a 'job;' that of assuring further extraction of funds from the Public.

Build prisons to create jobs. Create prisoners to fill those jails by converting Rights and Freedoms into Crimes through perpetual lawmaking. Raise Taxes to pay for it... Lather, Rinse, Repeat. This is but one example.

The pressures thrust upon those who try to stay out of jail and survive while supporting that burden are the answer to "Why is America so violent?" It isn't the guns that are the problem, as evidenced by so many studies. No other 1st World Country has a population this gullible and lazy.

We let our Government get away with anything it wants, and we're left trying to support it with Loans we can no longer afford to expand upon. Trying to draw inflation into the present with 50 year Loans, Interest Only Loans... It HAS to break. It can't result in anything but failure. We wouldn't be doing it if we didn't have to carry the burden of all this Royalty that spends the money on nothing but new and creative excuses to take more and more of our money from us.

1 + 1 != 7

Public Jobs are Jobs paid for with Tax Money. No matter what function that job serves, the nature of Government shows that money more useful in the hands of those it was taken from.
 

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So, by avoiding textbook answer you admit how useless textbooks are? That there is a great gulf between a textbook answer and one which is based on common-sense? Why are they different? Why is one in School and the other, not. :p

Today, Taxes are levied with little to no representation or approval from the Taxed, then spent willy-nilly.

The answer (which required definition from above): I define it by the source of the paycheck. It is a public job if the paycheck comes from Tax Money. It is paid for by the general public against their will and without their say. It is no different from the Royalty and the Peasants. The funds are forcibly extracted from the Public to pay for the waste and extravagance of the Politicians and their underlings. They perform a 'job;' that of assuring further extraction of funds from the Public.

Build prisons to create jobs. Create prisoners to fill those jails by converting Rights and Freedoms into Crimes through perpetual lawmaking. Raise Taxes to pay for it... Lather, Rinse, Repeat. This is but one example.

The pressures thrust upon those who try to stay out of jail and survive while supporting that burden are the answer to "Why is America so violent?" It isn't the guns that are the problem, as evidenced by so many studies. No other 1st World Country has a population this gullible and lazy.

We let our Government get away with anything it wants, and we're left trying to support it with Loans we can no longer afford to expand upon. Trying to draw inflation into the present with 50 year Loans, Interest Only Loans... It HAS to break. It can't result in anything but failure. We wouldn't be doing it if we didn't have to carry the burden of all this Royalty that spends the money on nothing but new and creative excuses to take more and more of our money from us.

1 + 1 != 7

Public Jobs are Jobs paid for with Tax Money. No matter what function that job serves, the nature of Government shows that money more useful in the hands of those it was taken from.

The deal is though, Ixtow, and I do see your point regarding public waste, that exchanging public waste for private waste would be more like 1 + 1 = 107!!

See, the government establishment is attempting to convince us that in order to do things right we have to outsource them to the private sector because the public sector cannot do its job correctly. Want a better prison system? Give a contract to Wackenhut to build and run a prison for only three times the price. The same with jails.

Now what do we have? We have prisons with air-conditioning and cushy mattresses (look at South Bay CI and Moorehaven, etc., look them up), where prisoners must be treated as "guests." The bonds are higher in private jails because there's a profit to be made; the prisoners stay longer in private prisons for the same reason. DR's are more likely private prisons than regular state prisons because of the same matter: the profit motive.

Private schools, same thing.

There are just certain things that government does well, and they shouldn't be tinkered with under the guise of privatization because they will simply do as follows:
1. Cost MORE for the taxpayer because now there's a profit motive behind the issue
2. Make services worse by having security guards (instead of trained officers) run the show
3. Have all the "selected" building, schooling, security guard, and security companies become bigger thanks to their "tight connections" with whomever they know in Tallahassee.
4. When everything fails to work, blame the parent, and then start on privatized counseling and parent reform. They'll end one trench to open the next one.

Public = 1 + 1 != 7 (yeah, we know they ain't the best)
Private = 1 + 1 = 107!! It's a no-brainer.
 
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There are just certain things that government does well, and they shouldn't be tinkered with under the guise of privatization because they will simply do as follows:

Private = 1 + 1 = 107!! It's a no-brainer.

Privatization in this context isn't really privatization. The market is not deciding on how resources should be allocated when it comes to government contracts; rather, the state is giving a guaranteed monopoly to those who offered the biggest bribes. The prison population should be reduced by at least 80%. A sane justice system, one that focused on restitution for victims (people who make a claim against another person) and ignored victimless crimes (the office of district attorney shouldn't exist) would require a small fraction of the jobs the current panopticon demands.
 
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Privatization in this context isn't really privatization. The market is not deciding on how resources should be allocated when it comes to government contracts; rather, the state is giving a guaranteed monopoly to those who offered the biggest bribes. The prison population should be reduced by at least 80%. A sane justice system, one that focused on restitution for victims (people who make a claim against another person) and ignored victimless crimes (the office of district attorney shouldn't exist) would require a small fraction of the jobs the current panopticon demands.

Amen, brother, but that would require an entirely different mentality than the one we currently possess and the one that we're heading toward with the Governor. We are going to have "warehousing" of the prisoners along with programs that nominally, but not really, reduce recidivism. And we'll be paying extra although we're paying the private company to pay security guards, not trained officers.

I agree with you on the 80% mark: as a criminal defense attorney and I've seen that doing nothing and making nothing of themselves while they're inside actually makes them worse. I've also seen someone who spent 11 years and got a Bachelor's in Mathematics from a better university than mine.

80%: It's a generation wasted because some politician (or judge, or ASA) wanted to appear tough on crime.
 
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Amen, brother, but that would require an entirely different mentality than the one we currently possess and the one that we're heading toward with the Governor. We are going to have "warehousing" of the prisoners along with programs that nominally, but not really, reduce recidivism. And we'll be paying extra although we're paying the private company to pay security guards, not trained officers.

I agree with you on the 80% mark: as a criminal defense attorney and I've seen that doing nothing and making nothing of themselves while they're inside actually makes them worse. I've also seen someone who spent 11 years and got a Bachelor's in Mathematics from a better university than mine.

80%: It's a generation wasted because some politician (or judge, or ASA) wanted to appear tough on crime.

I offer this opinion when it comes from personal experience. There are certain things i can't say right now that will attempt to make happen while in office to help reduce the amount of arrest made. Jojo knows of what I am talking about. Yet we can't say nothing. To me, re-entry is nothing more than a numbers game that is truly a waste of tax payers money. There are other programs that are a waste as well. Again from personal experience. I feel state prisons do need to be more self sufficient, meaning growing more veggies, and even raise meat as well. this would greatly reduce taxes. Jojo is also right about these so called money saving private prisons. They dont save money but cost even more but they false the numbers to make the public feel better. Welcome to the shell game. As I have said before, I will fight to restore constitutional rights, and fight for public jobs, and public employees. This doesn't mean I am only for government. The people will be very important in my decisions as a state senator. Everything I do will be put to a vote with the public, I will do what the majority says. Again I will say it for those hard of hearing. I wont bow to big money lobbyist or a contractor with the biggest bribe.

Something new though;
I am in the process of setting up a petition drive/awareness drive at a small business. The business is called "A Fu Kein Good Tattoo" it is located in Jacksonville, FL on Normandy blvd @ Cassat ave across from taco bell. There is a big parking lot across from the tattoo shop, I am also in negotiations with a gun range to hold a petition drive/awareness drive there as well. as soon as I have the date set I will post them. Come meet me in person. I am sure Jojo and J4L will be there as well.
 

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The deal is though, Ixtow, and I do see your point regarding public waste, that exchanging public waste for private waste would be more like 1 + 1 = 107!!

See, the government establishment is attempting to convince us that in order to do things right we have to outsource them to the private sector because the public sector cannot do its job correctly. Want a better prison system? Give a contract to Wackenhut to build and run a prison for only three times the price. The same with jails.

Now what do we have? We have prisons with air-conditioning and cushy mattresses (look at South Bay CI and Moorehaven, etc., look them up), where prisoners must be treated as "guests." The bonds are higher in private jails because there's a profit to be made; the prisoners stay longer in private prisons for the same reason. DR's are more likely private prisons than regular state prisons because of the same matter: the profit motive.

Private schools, same thing.

There are just certain things that government does well, and they shouldn't be tinkered with under the guise of privatization because they will simply do as follows:
1. Cost MORE for the taxpayer because now there's a profit motive behind the issue
2. Make services worse by having security guards (instead of trained officers) run the show
3. Have all the "selected" building, schooling, security guard, and security companies become bigger thanks to their "tight connections" with whomever they know in Tallahassee.
4. When everything fails to work, blame the parent, and then start on privatized counseling and parent reform. They'll end one trench to open the next one.

Public = 1 + 1 != 7 (yeah, we know they ain't the best)
Private = 1 + 1 = 107!! It's a no-brainer.

I believe you're still missing my point.

These 'jobs' don't need to be done AT ALL. By 107, or 7. They need to not exist at all. Nobody needs to do these jobs. They are jobs that do not need to be done. A far more malevolent version of hiring people to dig a hole, then move the hole. We hire people to arrest us for no reason, as a justification for hiring MORE people for that same job. Create more laws, create more criminals, create more jobs... This is a process counter to everything America was meant to be.

Doing these jobs in any form at all is a waste of common-sense.

It doesn't matter who shoots me in the face, how much they may or may not have been paid, or by whom, or how efficiently it was done. What I really need is to not get shot in the face. Period. That is a job that doesn't need doing. It is a function that need not exist, it isn't useful. No matter how much or how little money is spent in the endeavor, it's too much. Every penny spent on it is a waste. Stop doing it altogether. My face can't take it anymore!

These are malevolent jobs. They must cease to exist. It isn't about who's doing it, or how much it costs. It is about doing it at all. Shooting people in the face is not a 'job' that needs to be done. Understand? I don't care who's doing it, I want to stop getting shot in the face! Fire all the people who do that! Don't outsource it. Don't cut their benefits. Eliminate the 'job' of shooting me in the face. I don't need to be shot in the face. I haven't done anything to deserve it. There is no reason for that 'job' to exist.
 
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