AtackDuck
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Uncjohnny:"I am not advocating disarming your average citizen, but this letter writer would have us all walking around with guns on our hip, slinging at the drop of a dime, like the old west. To arm our average citizen so loosely as this writer as infered we would most definately see on influx of gun crime, examples; road rage, neighbor dispustes, domestic violence, and possibly more deranged and frustrated people like VT. Removing guns is not the answer, but arming everyone is ridiculous. "
"thank you atackduck.. (posted by uncjohnny, Apr. 18, 2007 12:36 pm)
for dragging me into your political mumbo jumbo! I never said that citizens should be denied their rights. As a matter of fact I said I do not advocate removing firearms, I just don't think we should loosely arm every citizen. Why don't you try to read what I said before you spew your remarks in my direction. And next time you want to accuse me of being to cowardly to protect myself, you should better aquaint yourself with your target."
"but because you did drag me in... (posted by uncjohnny, Apr. 18, 2007 1:07 pm)
What about the rights of the people that choose not to carry firearms on their hips like cowboys? Do you think we should use the 9th amendment, which allows for future amanedments, to protect their rights? Or maybe the 14th (equal protection) or the 2nd amendment (right to bare)? We do NOT have the right to deny people their rights to bare arms, but we DO have the RIGHT to REGULATE that right to bare arms to those that have a purpose to PROTECT the State. "
AtackDuck: "Wild west (posted by AtackDuck, Apr. 18, 2007 11:20 am)
Thank you uncjohn and kinnywayne for getting the standard "there will be blood in the streets with CCW" and "Americans can not trusted" arguments out the way. Neither is true. Just because neither of you is willing or can be trusted to defend yourselves, does not mean the rest should be denied their rights. (See Amend. 2, U.S. Constitution, writings of Jefferson, Madison, Coxe, Monroe, etc) "
With that out of the way, I welcome uncjohnny to a reasoned discussion of the rights of Virginians and Americans, to defense of self, others and community.
Uncjohnny:"I am not advocating disarming your average citizen, but this letter writer would have us all walking around with guns on our hip, slinging at the drop of a dime, like the old west. To arm our average citizen so loosely as this writer as infered we would most definately see on influx of gun crime, examples; road rage, neighbor dispustes, domestic violence, and possibly more deranged and frustrated people like VT. Removing guns is not the answer, but arming everyone is ridiculous. "
"thank you atackduck.. (posted by uncjohnny, Apr. 18, 2007 12:36 pm)
for dragging me into your political mumbo jumbo! I never said that citizens should be denied their rights. As a matter of fact I said I do not advocate removing firearms, I just don't think we should loosely arm every citizen. Why don't you try to read what I said before you spew your remarks in my direction. And next time you want to accuse me of being to cowardly to protect myself, you should better aquaint yourself with your target."
"but because you did drag me in... (posted by uncjohnny, Apr. 18, 2007 1:07 pm)
What about the rights of the people that choose not to carry firearms on their hips like cowboys? Do you think we should use the 9th amendment, which allows for future amanedments, to protect their rights? Or maybe the 14th (equal protection) or the 2nd amendment (right to bare)? We do NOT have the right to deny people their rights to bare arms, but we DO have the RIGHT to REGULATE that right to bare arms to those that have a purpose to PROTECT the State. "
AtackDuck: "Wild west (posted by AtackDuck, Apr. 18, 2007 11:20 am)
Thank you uncjohn and kinnywayne for getting the standard "there will be blood in the streets with CCW" and "Americans can not trusted" arguments out the way. Neither is true. Just because neither of you is willing or can be trusted to defend yourselves, does not mean the rest should be denied their rights. (See Amend. 2, U.S. Constitution, writings of Jefferson, Madison, Coxe, Monroe, etc) "
With that out of the way, I welcome uncjohnny to a reasoned discussion of the rights of Virginians and Americans, to defense of self, others and community.