Handgun Registration Repeal question

Yance said:

I know I'm late to the party...but something I haven't seen anyone mention about "Michigan pistols" and removing the purchase permit...wouldn't the definition of a pistol still apply to a Michigan pistol?

Under MCL 600.2951 which will be going into effect Jan. 2013

600.2951.amended “Approved signaling device” and “pistol” defined; use of approved signaling device; strict liability for damages; exception.

Sec. 2951.

(1)(b) "Pistol" means a firearm, loaded or unloaded, 26 inches or less in length, or any firearm, loaded or unloaded, that by its construction and appearance conceals it as a firearm.

So by the definition in the new law a Michigan pistol will remain a pistol if it is 26 inches or less, regardless of registration since its how a pistol is defined in the law, not by its registration, that makes it a pistol. Am I missing something?

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(bq...age=getObject&objectName=mcl-600-2951-amended

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stainless1911 said:

I was wondering the same thing.

BTW, does anyone know the OAL on a P-90? I looked but had no luck. IMO that would make an awesome car gun.

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stainless1911 said:

Shouldn't be a problem to knock off 1/4 inch from that gun. 1/8" each side and you got it.

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stainless1911 said:

BTW, does anyone know the OAL on a P-90? I looked but had no luck. IMO that would make an awesome car gun.

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TheQ said:

Guess using color is okay....? *shrugs*

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stainless1911 said:

The barrel in those is over 16". Most 16" barrels are. Does it include the brake? Otherwise, take the 1/4" off the stock.

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John Pierce said:

The rules for SBR are:

1) The barrel cannot be less than 16"
2) The overall length canot be less than 26"

So it is best not to make any suggestions in this regard because we do not want to even accidentally suggest doing something outside the bounds of the law.

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stainless1911 said:

http://www.impactguns.com/fn-ps90-triple-rail-30rd-black-3848950060-818513004749.aspx

Shows barrel length over 16", and OAL of 26 1/4"

Cal 5.7x28mm
Magazine Capacity 30
Barrel Length 16 1/16"
Overall Length 26 1/4"
Weight 6 lbs. 3 oz.
Operating Principle Blowback operated, closed bolt system
Magazine Type Horizontal box magazine
Firing Mode Semi-automatic only
Additional Description Three M1913 accessory rails are standard

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stainless1911 said:

The purpose of my inquisition of the P-90 was to determine if it could be registered as a pistol legally, after Jan 2013. In my research on the weapon, I found the barrel to be just over 16". If the OAL is 26.23, it's a little long.

What I was wondering is, (A)is the muzzle break measured as part of the barrel? If not, then it could easily be shortened. If it is measured as part of the barrel, (B), would it be legal to take 1/4" off of the stock?

Either of those mods should make the P-90 an ideal, and legal car carry gun post ban.

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Yooper said:

If the muzzle BRAKE (not break ) is permanently attached (welded/pinned/whatever) it is considered part of the barrel over-all length, if it is removable, then it is not part of the overall length of the barrel.

http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-2.pdf

Read 2.1.3

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stainless1911 said:

lol. Would it be legal to shave a little off of one (assuming it doesn't change the barrel length)?

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