DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
Define your term, please. What do you mean by liberalism?
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Obama urges tighter background checks on gun buyers after Aurora massacre
- Thread starter detroit_fan
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Define your term, please. What do you mean by liberalism?
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
There is a lot of different definitions, but in this day and age, I liken it to big government, heavy regulations, and the thought that people can't be trusted to make their own way without big brother holding their hand.
TheQ
Regular Member
I am a Liberal...a classical Liberal (look up classical liberalism on wikipedia). Please give care to trashing liberalism because of the likes of the neo/socialist liberals.
DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
Thanks, just wondering. But since both parties exhibit this, not separated by degree but by particulars, wouldn't all politicians be "liberals".
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
Most politicians are progressive.
Ezerharden
Regular Member
Most politicians are a waste of oxygen.
stainless1911
Banned
lol
DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
Again, define your term.
Shadow Bear
Michigan Moderator
Small_Arms_Collector
Regular Member
Easy: progressive: see also liberal
liberal: see also humanist
humanist: see also socialist
socialist: see also communist
They keep changing the term. Every time what they are becomes a bad word they pick a new one, liberal became a bad word politically so they became "progressive". When the sheep realize what "progressive means, they will choose a new one.
griffin
Regular Member
That's good to know as I did not know that because Guns Galore insists on running me through NICS. Bastiges.
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griffin
Regular Member
qft.
Shadow Bear
Michigan Moderator
What a bunch a farging iceholes!
DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
Silver Bullet in Wyoming does the same.
Raggs
Regular Member
newbie question, what is NICS?
griffin
Regular Member
Raggs
Regular Member
from the web site "The National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, is all about saving lives and protecting people from harm—by not letting guns and explosives fall into the wrong hands. It also ensures the timely transfer of firearms to eligible gun buyers."
this seems to be working REALLY well huh?
Shadow Bear
Michigan Moderator
We're from the government; we're here to help you!
Yance
Regular Member
Here's a question no one, absoultely 0% of people supporting gun laws will be able to answer..I promise.
Can you show me one (1) law, just one (1) law that has EVER prevented a criminal or convicted felon from buying or possessing a gun?
You cant, no one can, because there is no law that will ever be made that will stop someone from owning a firearm, why, because when you buy a stolen gun from a thug in their living room the government doesnt even know it happened. Criminals know they cant pass a background check, they know they will be denied a legal gun purchase, thats why they buy stolen guns, because there is no one to stop them from buying it. So how does having NICS or any other law stop it?
Some people seem to be so worried about a felon having a gun legally that they forget its already easier for them to buy a stolen gun, the only thing you are doing by allowing them to buy a gun legally is promoting the economy and if the gun is used in a crime you can trace it back to who bought it. The arguement about not allowing a criminal to legally buy a gun because they shouldnt have guns is asinine because you are looking completely past the fact that THEY ALREADY BUY GUNS.
Can you show me one (1) law, just one (1) law that has EVER prevented a criminal or convicted felon from buying or possessing a gun?
You cant, no one can, because there is no law that will ever be made that will stop someone from owning a firearm, why, because when you buy a stolen gun from a thug in their living room the government doesnt even know it happened. Criminals know they cant pass a background check, they know they will be denied a legal gun purchase, thats why they buy stolen guns, because there is no one to stop them from buying it. So how does having NICS or any other law stop it?
Some people seem to be so worried about a felon having a gun legally that they forget its already easier for them to buy a stolen gun, the only thing you are doing by allowing them to buy a gun legally is promoting the economy and if the gun is used in a crime you can trace it back to who bought it. The arguement about not allowing a criminal to legally buy a gun because they shouldnt have guns is asinine because you are looking completely past the fact that THEY ALREADY BUY GUNS.
B
Bikenut
Guest
Stop with the logic and facts! They don't make me "feel" good! And they don't make other people do what I want to tell them to do!
Dang it! How can the common folks be controlled if we operate on actual facts instead of made up crap that makes them "feel" good?
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