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Update on St. Louis couple


Regular Member
Aug 7, 2007
Granite State of Mind
And now they are suing to get their guns back.
A couple of trial lawyers should know that they can't successfully sue for the return of property that they knowingly agreed to forfeit as part of a plea deal.

Should know, but their legal acumen is already suspect when it comes to anything beyond ambulance chasing and nuisance-suing their neighbors.

They're not prohibited persons. They can own all the guns they want. If they're suing to get back the guns that they voluntarily forfeited, it's just more evidence that they are habitual vexatious litigants.

Please note that I didn't say they were wrong for defending their property.


Regular Member
Aug 22, 2013
here nc
USA TODAY 6/6/22, quote:
WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear an appeal from a St. Louis couple who could face indefinite suspension of their law licenses after they waved guns at a racial justice protest outside their home in 2020.

Mark McCloskey, a personal injury attorney and Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in Missouri, and his wife, Patricia McCloskey, drew national attention for walking onto their front yard with guns during a protest of the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

The protesters were walking to the home of the St. Louis mayor at the time.

Mark McCloskey pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor assault charge and Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment. Missouri Gov. Michael Parson pardoned the McCloskeys in 2021, but the state office responsible for investigating allegations of misconduct by lawyers sought to suspend their law licenses.

In their appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, the McCloskeys argued that the state court's ruling violated their Second Amendment rights and their rights to due process because they were "exercising lawful rights to bear arms in defense of their person, family, and home."