How to avoid drones? Ask dudes in middle east - recommended reading?

[J1MB0B]

Why should I fear the IRS? It's legal to kill IRS agents in Washington State when they try and take your property.

Oh I know, you fear them because you want socialism. There is nothing wrong with having a car that is fueled by coke.

Cite?

 

[Freedom1Man]

Cite?

RCW 9A.16.050
Homicide — By other person — When justifiable.


Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:

(1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or

(2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he or she is.


You'll have to read my thread in the social lounge about tax law for the rest of it.
I know the IRC better than most lawyers, for sure better than any lawyer on this site. However more people have an adverse reaction to the truth. So watch the 12 hour video and then read the law for yourself. Even the IRS had it in the IRS manual warning agents that if they were following orders that citizens could kill them. "Avoid unnecessary taxpayer reaction." Since IRS agents will attempt to take property without a warrant and they can be (and often are) armed, or they have conspired with a Sheriff's office to help steal your property without a court order the agent is committing a felony upon you, in your presence, etc.

Armed robbery and conspiracy to commit a crime are two felonies. Theft in value exceeding 750 (FRN) "dollars" is also a felony.

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

Why should I fear the IRS? It's legal to kill IRS agents in Washington State when they try and take your property.

Oh I know, you fear them because you want socialism. There is nothing wrong with having a car that is fueled by coke.

I didn't state you should fear the IRS.

I don't fear the IRS; then again, never had a run-in with them. I don't want Socialism; America has it's form and degree of Socialism.--Socialism is here to stay.

 

[davidmcbeth]

I don't fear the IRS; then again, never had a run-in with them.

Hope you save your tax records forever .. no statue of limitations on non-filers ... they came to me 10 yrs after filing (had a cancelled chk too) ... they wanted a file stamped copy of the return to agree to drop the case (250 bucks...but the state would have been 15K, and they were close behind of course).

Sued the IRS agent personally and got them to admit that they destroyed evidence & then when the state came a-callin I sent them the SAME paperwork that I did the feds. The state said "you filed" ... so suing the irs agent personally work out well (sans the several visits from the FBI & Treasury agents who I always promptly booted off my land).

So keep your tax paperwork forever ... no statue of limitations on non-filers ... every 5 years I ask for my return filed every 5 yrs previous & asked for certification ... I get em & the IRS has not said boo to me since...

 

[DamonK]

Back to the drones... seeing as how they can see your footprints(I've seen it) nothing that they offer in there would really work. You guys realize that we (military) feed them BS all the time just to watch them look like retards. We actually had them wrapping themselves in tinfoil for a little while!

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[sudden valley gunner]

Doesn't matter. You pay taxes, you are affirming the legitimacy of the System.

No we pay the taxes so they don't kill us it affirms nothing. If you paid the local mob who shaked you down, does that affirm the legitimacy of their actions?

Back to the drones... seeing as how they can see your footprints(I've seen it) nothing that they offer in there would really work. You guys realize that we (military) feed them BS all the time just to watch them look like retards. We actually had them wrapping themselves in tinfoil for a little while!

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So the question is how do we avoid the terrorism the U.S. are using on foreign nationals here at home?

 

[Aknazer]

Back to the drones... seeing as how they can see your footprints(I've seen it) nothing that they offer in there would really work. You guys realize that we (military) feed them BS all the time just to watch them look like retards. We actually had them wrapping themselves in tinfoil for a little while!

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And how do we know you're not feeding us BS about seeing footprints (though I'm sure this is possible with the right drone at a low enough altitude, with the proper sensor, and in the right environment as to leave a footprint)? Though some things in there would work as you can't track something that you can't see and isn't emitting anything. Also the next issue is going to be just which drone are we talking about and what sensors does it have loaded up? Not all drones are the same and so what might work against one drone doesn't mean it will work against another.

 

[Aknazer]

So the question is how do we avoid the terrorism the U.S. are using on foreign nationals here at home?

Well if he really has experience working with drones he can't say specifics as that would be giving away capabilities. At most he would only be able to talk in generics and unclassed info.

 

[DamonK]

And how do we know you're not feeding us BS about seeing footprints (though I'm sure this is possible with the right drone at a low enough altitude, with the proper sensor, and in the right environment as to leave a footprint)? Though some things in there would work as you can't track something that you can't see and isn't emitting anything. Also the next issue is going to be just which drone are we talking about and what sensors does it have loaded up? Not all drones are the same and so what might work against one drone doesn't mean it will work against another.

To be honest, I have no idea what kind of drone they were using. When I was in Afghanistan I was doing route clearance (I was supposed to be the commo nco but I snuck away from the head shed!) I just saw what the guys(civilian contractors) had on their screens. I believe that it was IR, but I'm not sure. But you could deffinately see recent tracks. As far as me feeding you guys bad info, you'll just have to trust me I guess. If it helps, I'm not in the service anymore. Gotta love an early medical retirement!

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[carolina guy]

Have you ever:

1) Voted
2) Paid Taxes

I bet you have done both! You supported it.

Have you ever obeyed the law? Then you support it. This a silly line of reasoning.

 

[DamonK]

Have you ever obeyed the law? Then you support it. This a silly line of reasoning.

Me thinks she is a desperate apologist...

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[carolina guy]

Me thinks she is a desperate apologist...

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This might be a better avatar for Beretta92FSLady

 

[Aknazer]

To be honest, I have no idea what kind of drone they were using. When I was in Afghanistan I was doing route clearance (I was supposed to be the commo nco but I snuck away from the head shed!) I just saw what the guys(civilian contractors) had on their screens. I believe that it was IR, but I'm not sure. But you could deffinately see recent tracks. As far as me feeding you guys bad info, you'll just have to trust me I guess. If it helps, I'm not in the service anymore. Gotta love an early medical retirement!

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This gets into why it would need to be on the right surface and need the right sensors for you to see them. It needs to be something that would allow for a decent enough of a change in the texture (so like sand, mud that doesn't fill the tracks, etc) so that the emissivity (rate at which the spot absorbs/reflects heat) changes enough for the sensors to pick it up. If it's an EO sensor then it comes down simply having the magnification to be able to see it. As such, it was most likely in IR since it's going to be far easier to see since the emissivity will change as the ground becomes packed down from travel. Though this is still going to be easier in regards to either a regular path preferably used by a vehicle or cart (though a trail used enough by people/animals will be packed down enough as well) than it is in regards to individual footsteps. There are a ton of other factors that can also help/hurt the sensors, but it comes down to what is going to make a spot of ground give off more/less heat than the ground around it as this is all that IR really sees.

Now if the technology can see down to individual footsteps and at what altitude I don't know, but that's the science behind the technology.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Someone needs to invent a bullet that gives a small EMP burst.

 

[OC for ME]

Me thinks she is a desperate apologist...

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No, she is a liberal.....nuff said.