Maverick9
Regular Member
Hi guys,
I've been discussing the actions in the now infamous 'Officer Tases Partner' video on Youtube.
Now we just see a short snippet from the POV of the officers lapel cam, but they go up to a couple sitting in a car, start questioning them, and saying things like "I'm going to count to three and you better show me your ID...".
IOW, really childish stuff and I don't think any of it is legal.
They end up dragging the -PASSENGER- out of the car which, it appears to me, was parked out in front of their house, tasing him and the cop's own partner.
They charged him with three things, which seem utterly ridiculous and it appears they scoured the books to come up with two of these.
1. He was charged with OOB, Obstructing Official Business. Again, he was a passenger in a parked car, and was just sitting there, not moving, not really talking (which is his right, AFAIK). I thought that any OOB charge was for a completely different situation, such as physically obstructing a cop from going into a restaurant you own to investigate a crime. I can't imagine it used often or EVER used to charge a non-resisting person sitting in the passenger seat of a parked car in broad daylight.
2. Failure to produce ID. Now, this person was not walking, driving, disturbing the peace, not in a dark parking lot, so there was no articulable suspicion of a crime being committed or about to be committed. Apparently the female who was sitting in the driver's seat (IDK if she was driving) was arguing with the guy and the girl's mother called the cops, but the cops did not witness anything, which I thought was required in a misdemeanor or hearsay. If she was driving what is the law for pulling her over, absent a traffic violation?
3. Resisting arrest. The guy was not 'cooperating' or obeying a, in my opinion, not legal command to get out of the car or produce ID as a passenger in a parked car, but he was not fighting the cop, or trying not to be cuffed. He just wasn't talking or moving.
Now, there may have been other things going on, I don't know. But are we now in a country where a cop can get a phone call, go up to a random parked car he THINKS is their 'guy' and demand ID, count to three, and then drag the guy out and tase him and make ridiculous charges, because having to wear lapel cams can't lie and say 'disorderly conduct'?
Here is the video. The vid starts with the cop saying to the passenger in the parked car (I don't know if they were driving and got pulled over, which makes a bit more difference, but again the guy was a passenger) and the cop, if there was a law he was citing, would just have arrested him immediately and not argued or 'counted to three' as though he was the guy's father, lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8iDmeDcSeE
Thanks!
I've been discussing the actions in the now infamous 'Officer Tases Partner' video on Youtube.
Now we just see a short snippet from the POV of the officers lapel cam, but they go up to a couple sitting in a car, start questioning them, and saying things like "I'm going to count to three and you better show me your ID...".
IOW, really childish stuff and I don't think any of it is legal.
They end up dragging the -PASSENGER- out of the car which, it appears to me, was parked out in front of their house, tasing him and the cop's own partner.
They charged him with three things, which seem utterly ridiculous and it appears they scoured the books to come up with two of these.
1. He was charged with OOB, Obstructing Official Business. Again, he was a passenger in a parked car, and was just sitting there, not moving, not really talking (which is his right, AFAIK). I thought that any OOB charge was for a completely different situation, such as physically obstructing a cop from going into a restaurant you own to investigate a crime. I can't imagine it used often or EVER used to charge a non-resisting person sitting in the passenger seat of a parked car in broad daylight.
2. Failure to produce ID. Now, this person was not walking, driving, disturbing the peace, not in a dark parking lot, so there was no articulable suspicion of a crime being committed or about to be committed. Apparently the female who was sitting in the driver's seat (IDK if she was driving) was arguing with the guy and the girl's mother called the cops, but the cops did not witness anything, which I thought was required in a misdemeanor or hearsay. If she was driving what is the law for pulling her over, absent a traffic violation?
3. Resisting arrest. The guy was not 'cooperating' or obeying a, in my opinion, not legal command to get out of the car or produce ID as a passenger in a parked car, but he was not fighting the cop, or trying not to be cuffed. He just wasn't talking or moving.
Now, there may have been other things going on, I don't know. But are we now in a country where a cop can get a phone call, go up to a random parked car he THINKS is their 'guy' and demand ID, count to three, and then drag the guy out and tase him and make ridiculous charges, because having to wear lapel cams can't lie and say 'disorderly conduct'?
Here is the video. The vid starts with the cop saying to the passenger in the parked car (I don't know if they were driving and got pulled over, which makes a bit more difference, but again the guy was a passenger) and the cop, if there was a law he was citing, would just have arrested him immediately and not argued or 'counted to three' as though he was the guy's father, lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8iDmeDcSeE
Thanks!
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