That whole law related to carrying on buses being hijacking needs to go. Also, we need to extend the same protections for OC that we have in place for CC.
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Yes.+1! I have always been concerned about the felony carry on a bus issue and have been puszzled that I very rarely see the issue addressed and don't recall it being addressed in proposed legislation. To be fair, I very well could have missed it. And I certainly am not criticizing those who have worked so hard to make the great progress we have made in the last decade. I am fully capable of being more engaged and raising it as an issue but have not put forth the work to do so.
That being said, I have always wondered, but have not asked those more involved in the legislative process, if there is some issue with raising the bus prohibition. I suspect that there is some deeper problem with it, maybe related to public transportation authority push back?
So how much would Metrolink carry help if bus carry is still a felony? Still makes use of public transportation difficult and seriously disenfranchises those who cannot afford private transportation given the spread out nature of the MO metro areas?
You should have called me before I left town! Today, as we passed a Metrolink station, I told my wife I wasn't ready to leave STL yet.Metrolink open carry next? Seriously considering it.
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5780000305.HTMMetrolink open carry next? Seriously considering it.
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5780000305.HTM
"Any passenger who boards a bus with a dangerous or deadly weapon or other means capable of inflicting serious bodily injury concealed upon his person or effects is guilty of the felony of "possession and concealment of a dangerous or deadly weapon" upon a bus. Possession and concealment of a dangerous and deadly weapon by a passenger upon a bus shall be a class C felony.
What are the laws on building carry in MO? In other words, let's say someone has to go into a building or other structure to board the bus or rail vehicle. Is there a separate prohibition on carrying in such buildings, or government buildings?
2. Carrying of a concealed firearm in a location specified in subdivisions (1) to (17) of subsection 1 of this section by any individual who holds a concealed carry permit issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121, or a concealed carry endorsement issued prior to August 28, 2013, shall not be a criminal act but may subject the person to denial to the premises or removal from the premises. If such person refuses to leave the premises and a peace officer is summoned, such person may be issued a citation for an amount not to exceed one hundred dollars for the first offense. If a second citation for a similar violation occurs within a six-month period, such person shall be fined an amount not to exceed two hundred dollars and his or her permit, and, if applicable, endorsement to carry concealed firearms shall be suspended for a period of one year. If a third citation for a similar violation is issued within one year of the first citation, such person shall be fined an amount not to exceed five hundred dollars and shall have his or her concealed carry permit, and, if applicable, endorsement revoked and such person shall not be eligible for a concealed carry permit for a period of three years.
Thank you for the information.Building wise there isn't much. Everything in the concealed carry part of the law states gov buildings, post offices, polling places etc. Are off limits. But at the end of the statute it states that non of these shall be a criminal offense. Basically a guiding that if broken on a couple of occasions they could suspend your carry permit.
Privately signs hold no legal bearing in Mo. I don't even look for them, except for when OC'ing. Obviously if they knew you were carrying they could ask you to leave, and if you won't it'd be trespassing. Otherwise, signs don't mean jack.
Snip from Mo 571.030. 1
From Metro's website, FAQ:Thank you for the information.
Let me ask a couple more questions:
1) Who do the cops on the Metro/Metrolink work for?
2) What is the public's perception of personal safety on Metro?
As to ublic perception, in my opinion it depends on which stop. The N. Hanley Station can be a little rough sometimes, based on past events reported in the news. I don't use Metrolink very often and I have not had any issues when I have used Metrolink. Good means to get downtown. Folks who use it more than I will be better able to describe their views on personal safety while riding Metrolink.The safety and security of customers on the region’s public transit system are the highest priority of Metro. Metro employs uniformed, sworn Police Officers from St. Clair County, St. Louis County and St. Louis City to protect our customers using the region’s transit system. Undercover Police Officers are also employed to protect transit customers. In addition, Metro contracts with Securitas, an international security firm which staffs MetroLink platforms and trains, and is responsible for fare enforcement. ...
Excellent, thank you!From Metro's website, FAQ: As to ublic perception, in my opinion it depends on which stop. The N. Hanley Station can be a little rough sometimes, based on past events reported in the news. I don't use Metrolink very often and I have not had any issues when I have used Metrolink. Good means to get downtown. Folks who use it more than I will be better able to describe their views on personal safety while riding Metrolink.
Excellent, thank you!
Would you mind providing a link link to MO's preemption statute?
Firearms legislation preemption by general assembly, exceptions--limitation on civil recovery against firearms or ammunitions manufacturers, when, exception.
21.750. 1. The general assembly hereby occupies and preempts the entire field of legislation touching in any way firearms, components, ammunition and supplies to the complete exclusion of any order, ordinance or regulation by any political subdivision of this state. Any existing or future orders, ordinances or regulations in this field are hereby and shall be null and void except as provided in subsection 3 of this section.
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