Open carrying confused....

backenj said:

Why don't you just get it expunged?

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Need to quote somebody so people know what your talking about.

No you don't. One person rarely does. He just makes comments and leaves the rest of us to guess.

TheQ said:

No you don't. One person rarely does. He just makes comments and leaves the rest of us to guess.

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I am sure backenj isn't like THAT person usually :banana:

How do you know who I was talking about?

WilDChilD said:

Need to quote somebody so people know what your talking about.

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Oh,sorry. Since this thread was about Bubba72 and his CPL and having a misdemeanor stopping him from getting it, I assumed logic would dictate the comment was meant for him. And by "him" I am referring to Bubba72. My bad.

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i could get it expunged but i was told it would have to be after 8yrs and since it's only been 6 1/2 yrs i guess that isn't going to work. so i guess i'll leave it on my record and wait another 1 1/2yrs to do so, but then that'll mean more lawyer fees and they aren't cheap.

unless the "expunged" comment wasn't directed and meant for me?

sorry if it does take me some time to check the thread and reply, i've been goin 12hr days at work and 7 days a week and i can't always get online to check and post, i'll try to do better in the future.....

gonna see if i can have future posts on this thread or any others that i might chime in on, gonna figure that out now....

Ummmm, no. It was for you.


780.621 Application for order setting aside conviction; setting aside of certain convictions prohibited; time and contents of application; submitting application and fingerprints to department of state police; report; application fee; contest of application by attorney general or prosecuting attorney; notice to victim; affidavits and proofs; court order; definitions.

Sec. 1.

(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person who is convicted of not more than 1 offense may file an application with the convicting court for the entry of an order setting aside the conviction. A person who is otherwise eligible to file an application under this section is not rendered ineligible by virtue of being convicted of not more than 2 minor offenses in addition to the offense for which the person files an application.

(2) A person shall not apply to have set aside, and a judge shall not set aside, a conviction for a felony for which the maximum punishment is life imprisonment or an attempt to commit a felony for which the maximum punishment is life imprisonment, a conviction for a violation or attempted violation of section 145c, 145d, 520c, 520d, or 520g of the Michigan penal code, 1931 PA 328, MCL 750.145c, 750.145d, 750.520c, 750.520d, and 750.520g, or a conviction for a traffic offense.

(3) An application shall not be filed until at least 5 years following imposition of the sentence for the conviction that the applicant seeks to set aside or 5 years following completion of any term of imprisonment for that conviction, whichever occurs later.



Time wise your good. A couple years back a friend of mine had a misdemeanor expunged, and if I remember correctly it was about $250. He had bottle rockets. I wonder what would have happened to it (misdemeanor) when the law changed. Would it have gone away?

so it was possible because i had applied to early upon the conviction of the misdimeanor ticket? if so, then the lawyer i got to fight the ticket told me wrong information, i specifically aske dhim if this would stop me from getting a cpl and told that it wouldn't but to wait at least 6 months before i applied....

backenj said:

I wonder what would have happened to it (misdemeanor) when the law changed. Would it have gone away?

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Nope, even if the law changes between being charged and convicted. Even if you commit a crime and 5 minutes later the law changes, you can still be found guilty. Think how happy a 20 year old would be if cited 5 minutes before midnight he or she is cited for possession of alcohol. For a good friend if mine, it was a painful lesson.

Bronson said:

Writing bad checks is a felony. Adultery is a felony. Carrying an unlicensed concealed weapon is a felony.

So we should be able to fire on anybody we see engaging in any of the above? That's lunacy.

Bronson

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exactly

WilDChilD said:

THANK YOU. (wish there was a kissing smiley) I knew I wasnt crazy!

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you ARE crazy... it's not for ANY felony, read it again:

"Immediate stopping of the fleeing felon, whether actually or presumably dangerous, was deemed absolutely necessary for the security of the people in a free state, and for maintaining the "public security."

so there are clearly situations where a fleeing felon will not meet these standards

Who?

stainless1911 said:

Who?

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President William Jefferson Clinton.

DrTodd said:

Nope, even if the law changes between being charged and convicted. Even if you commit a crime and 5 minutes later the law changes, you can still be found guilty. Think how happy a 20 year old would be if cited 5 minutes before midnight he or she is cited for possession of alcohol. For a good friend if mine, it was a painful lesson.

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Hypothetical. If I get arrested for possession of marijuana tomorrow and next week the feds decriminalize it, what crime would I be tried for?

backenj said:

Hypothetical. If I get arrested for possession of marijuana tomorrow and next week the feds decriminalize it, what crime would I be tried for?

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You would be charged with the original possession unless amnesty was granted with the law change.

backenj said:

Hypothetical. If I get arrested for possession of marijuana tomorrow and next week the feds decriminalize it, what crime would I be tried for?

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"Possession of Marijuana"

DrTodd said:

"Possession of Marijuana"

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Ya think so? Not that I want to be the one to test it with any crime. I would think the charge would be dropped. "nunc pro tunc" or now for then.

Bronson said:

Writing bad checks is a felony. Adultery is a felony. Carrying an unlicensed concealed weapon is a felony.

So we should be able to fire on anybody we see engaging in any of the above? That's lunacy.

Bronson

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Yes I agree, not every felony is grounds for a deadly force response. Except if the person writing the bad check is making it out to me

backenj said:

Hypothetical. If I get arrested for possession of marijuana tomorrow and next week the feds decriminalize it, what crime would I be tried for?

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You answered your own question.

NHCGRPR45 said:

You answered your own question.

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We get so good at asking/answering rhetorical questions because, at least when dealing with Anti-2A thought processes, because almost every question like "Do you think you need a firearm here" is answered by us... having a firearm here.