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What's the latest news on HB 5225?

WilDChilD

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If I remember correctly, this is up tomorrow. Any update on this bill?

NRA sent an email saying the house judicary committee was voting on it tomorrow. They wanted everybody to call the committee members.

What happened to Q? Seems like he would be all over this?
 
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detroit_fan

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NRA sent an email saying the house judicary committee was voting on it tomorrow. They wanted everybody to call the committee members.

What happened to Q? Seems like he would be all over this?

Yeah I was hoping to hear from Q on this.

Save me the eyestrain- what's the bottom line on it?

I'm not quite sure, it seems to have changed a bit. Something to do with eliminating PTP and registration, but here is an MGO thread on it where discussion of an FOID type card has come up.

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=158908
 

Yooper

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From what I gather, it eliminates the need to take the safety quiz every time a PTP is picked up (which is how it is anyway, so it's a moot point), eliminates the requirement that a PTP be returned if not used, increases the time to use a PTP from 10 to 30 days, and then has a few minor tweaks to the law (such as adding that notarization be free).

Here's the billhttp://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2011-2012/billintroduced/House/htm/2011-HIB-5225.htm
I don't see anything exciting in there
 
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sprinklerguy28

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Getting rid of purchase permits(permits to purchase, carry, or transport) creates more issues for those wishing to open carry. It has good and bad consequences based on our current firearm laws.
 

TheQ

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Getting rid of purchase permits(permits to purchase, carry, or transport) creates more issues for those wishing to open carry. It has good and bad consequences based on our current firearm laws.

This summarize why we are neutral and not supportive. Particularly the federal gun free zones come into effect here.

See 18 USC 922
 
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TheQ

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so how does every other state that has no PP and unlicensed OC get around the GFSZ?

I posed that question on a few different forums. No one knew or found any cases where someone was charged with violating the Federal Gun Free School zone as a standalone crime. It's always an add-on.

Nonetheless, we'd technically be advocating people possibly commit crimes by saying you can OC without a CPL. Try to walk through any urban area and not be within 1000' of a school.
 
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