The way that the Second Amendment should be

[stephpd]

imported post

Forth drunk driving- licence revoked with first offence.
It's a privilege, not a right. Driving with license revoked 5 yrs. Second dui felony-20 yrs

You can be trusted.

I'd preferr that these crime control problems be posted on my other thread on this page.

Let's leave this for just the Second Amendment.

Thanks!

 

[Liko81]

imported post

stephpd wrote:

Forth drunk driving- licence revoked with first offence.
It's a privilege, not a right. Driving with license revoked 5 yrs. Second dui felony-20 yrs

Funny you should say that; before licensing, the ability to drive WAS considered a right. If you had the money to buy the car, off you went. It was considered a liberty; if you can't get from place to place you are being restricted. It's only now that there are other valid feasible ways to get from place to place that driving is considered a "privilege". Crimes like drunk driving were crimes, but you posted bail, got back in your car and drove home. No, there's no constitutional right to drive. There is a fundamental right to liberty. If the government tells you you cannot drive, they are reducing your liberty.

 

[stephpd]

imported post

Liko81 wrote:

stephpd wrote:

Forth drunk driving- licence revoked with first offence.
It's a privilege, not a right. Driving with license revoked 5 yrs. Second dui felony-20 yrs

Funny you should say that; before licensing, the ability to drive WAS considered a right. If you had the money to buy the car, off you went. It was considered a liberty; if you can't get from place to place you are being restricted. It's only now that there are other valid feasible ways to get from place to place that driving is considered a "privilege". Crimes like drunk driving were crimes, but you posted bail, got back in your car and drove home. No, there's no constitutional right to drive. There is a fundamental right to liberty. If the government tells you you cannot drive, they are reducing your liberty.

Please put all crime control posts on the other thread.
Please!