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St. Louis Zoo: communication log + TRO filing/status + legal/financial help needed

BB62

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** Attorney & Donation Methods - Status Update **

*Representation *

After communicating with approximately 25 attorneys, yesterday I hired attorney Jane C. Hogan of St. Louis to respond to the Zoo's TRO against me and "anyone acting in concert with (me) or anyone who has knowledge of this order" as it applies to carrying a firearm onto the Zoo's property.

I also hired her to counter-sue the Zoo so as to establish precedent that the Zoo's claims of being an educational institution, a day care facility, an amusement park, and a business (among other things) - are hogwash.

If you've been following the news, you may have noted that the Houston and Dallas (TX) Zoos have made similar claims. Like St. Louis, they've claimed to be anything and everything in order to ban guns. However, when challenged, Houston pulled its signage. The Dallas Zoo is in the process of being challenged.


* Donation Methods *

My sincere thanks to everyone who has previously offered to donate - here's your chance! This case will undoubtedly go to the Missouri Supreme Court, and based on estimated attorney fees and expenses, I've used the figure of $10,000 on the crowdfunding site: https://www.gofundme.com/rp5tgsps


Also, Ms. Hogan can accept checks funds sent to her, made out to "Jane C. Hogan, IOLTA Trust. Please put "Jeffry Smith" or "St. Louis Zoo" in the memo. Her address is 5216 Chippewa Street, St. Louis, MO 63109.


Ms. Hogan wanted me to include the following statement for potential donors: "Please make clear to anyone wishing to contribute to your legal fund that their contributions do not, in any way, entitle them to control or direct the case or to receive information from my office."


* Other information *

It's been a difficult and wild ride getting to this point. I know the cause is worthwhile, I believe the Zoo's claims are about as substantial as those of the Texas zoos, and I'm confident in Ms. Hogan. This endeavor is not about whether a guy from Ohio can carry in the St. Louis Zoo: although the Zoo's claims affect mainly Missourians, it's yet another example of governmental overreach in matters of gun rights.

Our collective rights are only worth what we're willing to fight for, sometime with our presence, sometimes with our calls and letters, and sometimes with our money. I've put up a decent chunk of change in to get Ms. Hogan on board, but again, this matter is only tangentially about me. I can't shoulder the entire financial burden by myself, even though I'd like to. So, to say it bluntly, Missourians and others have the opportunity to "put up or shut up".

No amount donated is insubstantial, and will go a long way towards making the path to the MO Supreme Court possible.


THANK YOU.
 
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STLDaniel

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Would I be correct in reading this that checks sent directly to Ms. Hogan would be applied 100% to this case, where the crowd funding site would take a (nominal) fee?

Please, no one read that as insinuating we should or should not use that site, as it's providing a service of convenience and potentially more marketable. Just asking the question to help make my decision on how to send my donation.
 
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BB62

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Would I be correct in reading this that checks sent directly to Ms. Hogan would be applied 100% to this case, where the crowd funding site would take a (nominal) fee?

Please, no one read that as insinuating we should or should not use that site, as it's providing a service of convenience and potentially more marketable. Just asking the question to help make my decision on how to send my donation.
You're correct, and no offense taken.
 

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* Donation Methods *

My sincere thanks to everyone who has previously offered to donate - here's your chance! This case will undoubtedly go to the Missouri Supreme Court, and based on estimated attorney fees and expenses, I've used the figure of $10,000 on the crowdfunding site: https://www.gofundme.com/rp5tgsps

Also, Ms. Hogan can accept checks funds sent to her, made out to "Jane C. Hogan, IOLTA Trust. Please put "Jeffry Smith" or "St. Louis Zoo" in the memo. Her address is 5216 Chippewa Street, St. Louis, MO 63109.

Ms. Hogan wanted me to include the following statement for potential donors: "Please make clear to anyone wishing to contribute to your legal fund that their contributions do not, in any way, entitle them to control or direct the case or to receive information from my office."
Time to step up to the plate ladies and gentlemen - we are all in this together.
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BB62

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Would I be correct in reading this that checks sent directly to Ms. Hogan would be applied 100% to this case, where the crowd funding site would take a (nominal) fee?...
GoFundMe charges ~8% in fees.

Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of other choices out there for this kind of endeavor.

If you'd prefer, please send a check to the attorney, made out to "Jane C. Hogan, IOLTA Trust". Please put "Jeffry Smith" or "St. Louis Zoo" in the memo. Her address is 5216 Chippewa Street, St. Louis, MO 63109.

Or, if you'd like you can send me a check directly, and I will deposit it in the account I set up to take donations. The check must be made payable to me, however. I will report names (if you like) and an accounting of donations and expenses for those who choose to donate in this manner. Please PM me for my address.
 

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To those who donate by whatever means:

- please leave a note on GoFundMe saying where you're from geographically or "OCDO" or somesuch so I know who you are (if you want to be known)

- please include a note including identifying information and mentioning your donation amount if you send a check to the lawyer or to me directly.


Thanks very much.
 

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Ms. Hogan has made an initial filing, but I don't know how to post it. If someone can help me, or can post it themselves, I would greatly appreciate it.
 

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Ms. Hogan has made an initial filing, but I don't know how to post it. If someone can help me, or can post it themselves, I would greatly appreciate it.

I found it by searching for Missouri case net. Once found I searched that site by using Litigant Name Search, typing in jeffry smith. It came back with three pages of hits with this case being on page three.
 

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Search for case year 2015. I was looking earlier and could not find any documents on Casenet.

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1522-cc09876 - zoological park subdistrict of th v jeffry k smith (e-case)
 

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site redirected off to an ad site...malwarebytes or ESET didn't get excited tho...

second time i hit it out of bb62's original post like went where it was suppose to...

HOWEVER, WHEN I CLICKED ON THE PAGES TO OPEN IT WENT IMMEDIATELY INTO MALWARE MODE!!


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It came up fine on my CB. It's probably a bad ad. You might try again later, out install an ad blocker. Failing that, I can email it tonight.

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I'll have to do it tonight, since it's on one of my home computers. I'll post back here when I do. Long story short, the filing doesn't have much meat to it. There are a few admissions of uninteresting facts, and a lot of denials (which is what you expect for a TRO filling) and a basic summary of rights, as well as a denial that the Zoo meets any of the excepted buildings. There is no rationale or anything.

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